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by joanro on 31 July 2012 - 12:07
Bee, is it me, or have the pictures of the van and trailer been deleted?
by beetree on 31 July 2012 - 13:07
Scroll down...they have moved to the bottom. Added were pictures of a dog being shown at the very top. One can only assume this proves Peter and Petra are show dog people? Wonder why the appeal was directed to WL dog sport folk? Not that that really matters?
And I agree, for being described as being in a "violent flip or rollover" I see zero evidence of that, as well. And that's what happens when one discrepancy is discovered, it causes increased scrutiny on the rest of the story. And this one is not bearing up to that, IMHO.
But absolutely, if others feel differently, they should contribute. That choice of course remains on the chip in until Sept. 7, I think it said. The momentum however appears stalled, IMHO for good reason.
And I agree, for being described as being in a "violent flip or rollover" I see zero evidence of that, as well. And that's what happens when one discrepancy is discovered, it causes increased scrutiny on the rest of the story. And this one is not bearing up to that, IMHO.
But absolutely, if others feel differently, they should contribute. That choice of course remains on the chip in until Sept. 7, I think it said. The momentum however appears stalled, IMHO for good reason.
by Judy P on 31 July 2012 - 14:07
I do not usually send money to people I do not know however I would be willing to give shelter to the dogs. Our house burned several years ago and we were left homeless for almost 3 months we ended up living in a local Holiday Inn which was paid for by our homeowners ins. At that time we had 16 dogs. We never asked for anything for ourselves but did greatfully accept shelter for our dogs from a very good friend who opened her kennel and home to all of our dogs.
To me it seems these folks have very poor planning skills to leave on a move several states away with out proper funds and even a place to live.
To me it seems these folks have very poor planning skills to leave on a move several states away with out proper funds and even a place to live.
by susie on 31 July 2012 - 16:07
Beetree: "Added were pictures of a dog being shown at the very top. One can only assume this proves Peter and Petra are show dog people? Wonder why the appeal was directed to WL dog sport folk? Not that that really matters?"
This board was originally made for friends of the German Shepherd, not only and especially for working line people...
Even a working dog should have a show rating and a breed survey BEFORE breeding...
In my opinion, and I neither know Peter nor Petra, they moved to Kentucky out of desperation, maybe they weren´t able to afford Florida any longer, and this journey was their last attempt to survive in the States.
I heard they are German, it´s difficult for a German in the States, real friends are few and far between...believe me or not.
I am German, I have been in the States for a while, it IS difficult. - These 2 tried, and they failed.
I only wonder - if they are showline handlers, where are all the people they handled for right now? Nobody out there who ows them a good rating, who is thankful because of anything?
As long as there is success, people know you, as soon as there are any difficulties, most people don´t even remember.
No American problem, seems to be international.
Kind regards from Good Old Germany
Susie
This board was originally made for friends of the German Shepherd, not only and especially for working line people...
Even a working dog should have a show rating and a breed survey BEFORE breeding...
In my opinion, and I neither know Peter nor Petra, they moved to Kentucky out of desperation, maybe they weren´t able to afford Florida any longer, and this journey was their last attempt to survive in the States.
I heard they are German, it´s difficult for a German in the States, real friends are few and far between...believe me or not.
I am German, I have been in the States for a while, it IS difficult. - These 2 tried, and they failed.
I only wonder - if they are showline handlers, where are all the people they handled for right now? Nobody out there who ows them a good rating, who is thankful because of anything?
As long as there is success, people know you, as soon as there are any difficulties, most people don´t even remember.
No American problem, seems to be international.
Kind regards from Good Old Germany
Susie
by Mystere on 31 July 2012 - 18:07
Is this the same couple that were in Wisconsin a year or so ago?
by Hundmutter on 31 July 2012 - 20:07
The appeal was originally directed towards Work - look at the title of the OPs thread.
Just like Bee, this makes me curious / wary.
Also on the road accident - OP said "jaws of death" were used to cut Petra out; going by the pix, no way was this a
"can opener" job, the roof was still on. =You gotta wonder. Don't matter to me if people want to send help,
financial or otherwise, that is their own business. Me, I've got very little, so I am particularly careful when & where
I donate.
Just like Bee, this makes me curious / wary.
Also on the road accident - OP said "jaws of death" were used to cut Petra out; going by the pix, no way was this a
"can opener" job, the roof was still on. =You gotta wonder. Don't matter to me if people want to send help,
financial or otherwise, that is their own business. Me, I've got very little, so I am particularly careful when & where
I donate.
by live4schutzhund on 01 August 2012 - 00:08
I call bull$hit. Simple as that. Everyone else saying the same but not as blunt will be proven right eventually.
Not a photo of a vehicle or a trailor in a roll over at speeds of over 50MPH. Not at any speed really.
So many other things I can point out but already done. People out of money finding a way to get some.
Call me whatever. As long as in the end you call me right. My wife can tell you how frustrating it is. Never the less, still right.
Scam.
Not a photo of a vehicle or a trailor in a roll over at speeds of over 50MPH. Not at any speed really.
So many other things I can point out but already done. People out of money finding a way to get some.
Call me whatever. As long as in the end you call me right. My wife can tell you how frustrating it is. Never the less, still right.
Scam.
by joanro on 01 August 2012 - 00:08
Live4, we're just a tad smarter'n they thought we are.
by live4schutzhund on 01 August 2012 - 00:08
by hexe on 01 August 2012 - 01:08
Mystere, in answer to your question, that would be a 'yes'. This is the same couple that apparently had some involvement with Selten Ruhe kennel in WI a while back...there are posts in the archives to that effect regarding that relationship, or rather regarding the ending of that relationship.
Hey, for all those who are feeling charitable, Nadya Suleman, aka "OctoMom"--the nut-job who got her doctor to plant a litter's worth of human embryoes in her uterus--is needin' money, too, and working the stripper pole, doing a porn video and shilling for a loan company of dubious origin isn't paying the bills for her humongous brood...so SHE'S got a fundraising site going, too, and at least in her case, we've all seen proof of her chirruns existance. I won't give her so much as a penny I found on the sidewalk, though--she made this mess of her life willingly.
Or there's the gal that posted on here a few days ago, in the Off Topic forum, who up front admitted that it was unlikely that anyone would contribute, but who set up a fundraising site for her own expenses as she moves on to college and her own lodging. She doesn't claim any disasterous events in her life, no tragic injuries or extreme obstacles...she just presents herself as an average young adult from an average American family who works full-time in a job that offers no advancement, is returning to school because of that, lives in her parent's basement (and pays rent!) and has 4 GSDs. It's your basic 'if everyone gave just a nickel, it would add up to thousands of dollars' concept, which does have merit--and as a fellow vet tech, if I should come into some spare cash, I might just push it in her direction.
But this appeal? As I've said before--I can't help but feel the OP, and ziegenfarm and susie and SchaferhundSchH, are all being used as unwitting dupes, believing what they're being told because they'd met the 'victims' of this tragedy at some point or another and found them to be quite likeable [if con artists don't possess some level of charm and solicitousness, they aren't be able to ply their trade], or they're simply more trusting than some of us. It would appear that susie is starting to ask the right questions about this whole situation, though--where ARE all the people they've handled for in the show ring and breed surveys? Where are the folks they trained with when they were in FL, if that's where they last lived? I'm hard pressed to believe that there's a motel that's allowing them to live there with 8 dogs, also--after all, since the trailer is wrecked, and so is the van, where are they stashing those 8 dogs?
Hey, for all those who are feeling charitable, Nadya Suleman, aka "OctoMom"--the nut-job who got her doctor to plant a litter's worth of human embryoes in her uterus--is needin' money, too, and working the stripper pole, doing a porn video and shilling for a loan company of dubious origin isn't paying the bills for her humongous brood...so SHE'S got a fundraising site going, too, and at least in her case, we've all seen proof of her chirruns existance. I won't give her so much as a penny I found on the sidewalk, though--she made this mess of her life willingly.
Or there's the gal that posted on here a few days ago, in the Off Topic forum, who up front admitted that it was unlikely that anyone would contribute, but who set up a fundraising site for her own expenses as she moves on to college and her own lodging. She doesn't claim any disasterous events in her life, no tragic injuries or extreme obstacles...she just presents herself as an average young adult from an average American family who works full-time in a job that offers no advancement, is returning to school because of that, lives in her parent's basement (and pays rent!) and has 4 GSDs. It's your basic 'if everyone gave just a nickel, it would add up to thousands of dollars' concept, which does have merit--and as a fellow vet tech, if I should come into some spare cash, I might just push it in her direction.
But this appeal? As I've said before--I can't help but feel the OP, and ziegenfarm and susie and SchaferhundSchH, are all being used as unwitting dupes, believing what they're being told because they'd met the 'victims' of this tragedy at some point or another and found them to be quite likeable [if con artists don't possess some level of charm and solicitousness, they aren't be able to ply their trade], or they're simply more trusting than some of us. It would appear that susie is starting to ask the right questions about this whole situation, though--where ARE all the people they've handled for in the show ring and breed surveys? Where are the folks they trained with when they were in FL, if that's where they last lived? I'm hard pressed to believe that there's a motel that's allowing them to live there with 8 dogs, also--after all, since the trailer is wrecked, and so is the van, where are they stashing those 8 dogs?
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