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by Bhaugh on 24 July 2012 - 00:07
Just so everyone knows, auto insurance does NOT cover medical expenses unless the policy holder carries a rider on the policy to cover such.
That being said, I stand by my response.
That being said, I stand by my response.
by Chaz Reinhold on 24 July 2012 - 01:07
Op hasn't been back.
by barkroz on 25 July 2012 - 02:07
I am truly not sure when our society became quite this cynical and quite this cruel...I will reiterate, if there are individuals that truly may have information about resources available to these individuals in need, in the Kentucky area, my email was placed openly in the original post. There have been over 1700 hits to the post, 10 negative or neutrally negative posts/replies and I have yet to receive one email requesting additional information to confirm need and possibly provide resources. This is pretty sad. I am not going to post their photos/or their accident report on this site to enable voyeristic interest, but I do reiterate, if anyone knows of resources available in the area for them or ....their dogs....I would welcome an email to discuss their situation further. I guess the impressive thing here is that of the over 1700 hits, if any of those individuals had doubts, they at least had the personal integrity not to post them. Interestingly, the only attempted helpful replies I have had to this situation were from non-dog community individuals...Disappointing...
by hexe on 25 July 2012 - 05:07
I hardly think that asking when and where this accident took place is an affront to your charitable aspirations...quite simply, it's the fiscally prudent thing to do before making a donation to a stranger on behalf of two additional strangers. Especially if you want info on resources available "in the area"--Kentucky may not be Texas, but it's still big enough that a general vicinity would be needed if someone were to try and identify individuals or organizations that could possibly be of help...
by Hundmutter on 25 July 2012 - 08:07
Hexe - good points.
by workingdogz on 25 July 2012 - 10:07
Hexe has put things in a very polite way.
You came here asking for help/funds for two people,
but provided nothing but scant details. You surely
cannot expect people to bust out their wallets and
such without some more info? The fact that more
details are wanted/needed doesn't make any of us
cruel and/or cynical. Kentucky is indeed a decent sized
State. We have some good friends in a few places in
Kentucky and Ohio etc, but without info as to where this
happened and some form of tangible proof it did indeed
happen? well...it just doesn't sit right.
It's not that hard to say, here is the hotel they are at--->
Here is where the accident occured--->
This is what they need--->
This is what they are waiting on (insurance payout etc).
All you did was made a blanket request for funds.
You came here asking for help/funds for two people,
but provided nothing but scant details. You surely
cannot expect people to bust out their wallets and
such without some more info? The fact that more
details are wanted/needed doesn't make any of us
cruel and/or cynical. Kentucky is indeed a decent sized
State. We have some good friends in a few places in
Kentucky and Ohio etc, but without info as to where this
happened and some form of tangible proof it did indeed
happen? well...it just doesn't sit right.
It's not that hard to say, here is the hotel they are at--->
Here is where the accident occured--->
This is what they need--->
This is what they are waiting on (insurance payout etc).
All you did was made a blanket request for funds.
by barkroz on 25 July 2012 - 11:07
I am not sure I am being unclear here, I requested that if someone was in a position to refer them to any resources, that they contact me for additional information. The last thing I would do for anyone, in an attempt to help them, is post pictures or police report information online in a public forum. Many individuals just scan the individual topics, and should. I am not sure any of us, would want to have those items posted at large, but would not mind doing so if an individual, with real intent, made a contact. I have already posted more information, about the individuals I am trying to assist, and myself than they or I are probably comfortable with, but was doing so as to be vague about trying to help nameless people and being nameless myself would truly be viewed cyncially and should...Once again, not one email from this forum, not one...Not even, I know where there is cheap dog food in Kentucky, I am not sure that kinda information puts anyone out??
by beetree on 25 July 2012 - 12:07
It would seem these people are poor planners to begin with. While the accident story may or may not be true, as a complete stranger I know, this: They left their old home with the intent to start over a new life, with eight dogs in their care. They clearly didn't have a clue where they were supposed to end their journey and lay their heads down on a place to be called their home. They left without a pot to piss in. And now they need to rely "On the kindness of strangers".
by hexe on 25 July 2012 - 12:07
"I guess the impressive thing here is that of the over 1700 hits, if any of those individuals had doubts, they at least had the personal integrity not to post them. Interestingly, the only attempted helpful replies I have had to this situation were from non-dog community individuals...Disappointing..."
Disappointing? I'm sure it is. To many of us, however, it's quite telling--non-dog community people are a naíve population relative to the individuals on whose behalf you're appealing.
The folks here are, in general, a pretty generous bunch who have opened their wallets to various causes over the years that involved total strangers known only via these forums--but those strangers were much more forthcoming with details than you've been, and the excuse that you're 'respecting their privacy' is three-legged lame at best. Even if I know where to find 'cheap dog food in Kentucky', of what use would that be if the food is in Paducah and they're in Louisville? Again, IMO, asking for the general vicinity is only 'revealing' if there's some reason they don't wish their whereabouts to be known.
Edited to add:
Since you said a lead to 'cheap dog food' would be useful, here ya' go--this from the Louisville craigslist, which could be on the other side of the state from where they are, but so what, right?
Date: 2012-07-23, 6:06AM EDT
Reply to: kzd2q-3146798029@sale.craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
all breed dog food $12.00 bag
horse feed starting at $7.50 bag
call 606-663-8101
or stop out at 507 frames branch clay city
Disappointing? I'm sure it is. To many of us, however, it's quite telling--non-dog community people are a naíve population relative to the individuals on whose behalf you're appealing.
The folks here are, in general, a pretty generous bunch who have opened their wallets to various causes over the years that involved total strangers known only via these forums--but those strangers were much more forthcoming with details than you've been, and the excuse that you're 'respecting their privacy' is three-legged lame at best. Even if I know where to find 'cheap dog food in Kentucky', of what use would that be if the food is in Paducah and they're in Louisville? Again, IMO, asking for the general vicinity is only 'revealing' if there's some reason they don't wish their whereabouts to be known.
Edited to add:
Since you said a lead to 'cheap dog food' would be useful, here ya' go--this from the Louisville craigslist, which could be on the other side of the state from where they are, but so what, right?
40lbs bags of dog food $12.00 bag (clay city)
Date: 2012-07-23, 6:06AM EDT
Reply to: kzd2q-3146798029@sale.craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
all breed dog food $12.00 bag
horse feed starting at $7.50 bag
call 606-663-8101
or stop out at 507 frames branch clay city
- Location: clay city
- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
by joanro on 25 July 2012 - 13:07
Go to any Tractor Supply. They have cheap dog food. Since I don't know which end of Kentuky they're in, they might have to find a Farm and Fleet. Also, ANY feed store will have cheap dog food. How many dogs survived the wreck? Did they have accident coverage? Have they been able to meet with insurance adjuster; the vehicle was apparently totaled, so maybe they had comprehensive coverage? I think posters are not being cynical, but cautious? Ever see those spam, scam emails, "so and so is stranded in Bumfutch, Azbeckistan and, he is my ONLY son and he had a rack and I promise I will give your mone bak but I need tweentytousad us dollars, NOW!!!PLEES HURRY!!" those things tend to condition people to be cautious.
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