Brindle Gsd! Did Not Think This Was Possible! - Page 9

You may not think brindle is possibe, but I have one. She is a beautiful brindle with a black saddle and mask (although it is turning grey with age). I rescued this girl when she was a year old. She had AKC papers at the time, although I did not get them when I rescued her. I also rescued a white, which is not an AKC recognized color. The 2 dogs looked identical in form but I was constantly asked what kind of dogs they were. I have attached a photo of my Roxy (brindle). I don't know why anyone would think that a coat color/pattern couldn't resurface. Genetics...It can happen.

bigdogmom - 

You have a brindle dog that indeed closely resermbles a GSD. Also... it's easy to claim a dog "has AKC papers." Did you see the papers?  Look through her pedigree?  If they had such papers why didn't you get them? 

As has been said, yes, genetics can resurface.  But the chances of them magically resurfacing after hundreds of years, with no brindles on record since, is comical.  And even if such a miracle were to occur, it would be something that tons of people would be interested in and testing... GSD people, vets, genetic testers etc.

OT
(just correcting a common miss quote)
It's the LOVE of money is the root of all evil NOT money by it's self.
Debby

Hadn't been on in a couple days just found this thread.  I'm surprised nobody else commented on the fact that on her website when she is giving reasons for getting the deposit in early she lists wanting a certain coat color or pattern or wanting a certain eye color.  I'm almost afraid to ask what other color gsd eyes come in.  I agree those are UGLY dogs, would venture to say like everyone else they are mixes.  And as far as not being able to DNA an import I have 2 imports that are DNA'd, wasn't a problem at all.  But then again I wasn't worried about trying to market mixed breeds as gsds, that could be a problem if you have them dna'd.  Unless you are selling working dogs to police depts, it's not a big selling point to say you sell them pet dogs.  Hell even when we sell a dog to a police dept it's amazing how little they know about the dogs.  Sad part is there are enough people out there that don't know anything about the breed that will buy them and eventually they will breed them.  Common sense should tell people if they really were some "rare" form of gsd you wouldn't be able to buy them for 500, hell you can't really find a decent normal shepherd for 500.  The things people will do for money.

No bother to read this thread.  Yes, any dog can be dna'd and purebreds can be proven as such, as well as parentage verified etc.  On any dog, europeans do it too LOL

Brindle was present 100 years ago when the breed was being created.  This color is extinct.  Any GSD that is brindle is mixed.

molly

Thats a bit of a blunt statement, Molly. The brindle pattern might be extinct, but how do we know or even prove that? Just because we dont see it we say its gone? What if its an underlying attachment to the sable and just not as distinctive visible like in some other breeds? Possible?
That one puppy girl I have had a very distinct striping for the first couple of weeks after birth. It faded as she went through the puppy coat changes. She is a sable with chest patterns. The only one from the litter that had stripes. And no, nobody jumped the fence. I posted pics before.

Extinct is an interesting word. For instance, the "officials" kept telling us mountain lions are extinct in CT. And then someone hit and killed one on the highway just this past June. They said it came all the way from South Dakota! So maybe it wasn't an originally native, Eastern Mountain lion, but when you are staring at the animal, and it sure is a mountain lion,  it's not like that part matters much.

Just thought I'd throw that out there for the fun of it. 

well, ok I guess that statement was blunt.  I guess brindle does in fact exist in GSDs - when you mix a Dutch shepherd in with it and oops fail to note that on the pedigree.  Is that better?

molly

beetree - the definition of "extinct" is - does not exist anymore.  Gone.  Can't be found.  No longer exists on the face of the earth.  Mountain Lions are not extinct and yes they can travel, or be released into the "wilds" of CT.  Now, if the creature hit by a car in CT was a mammoth, or a tasmanian tiger.....  I've  heard tell there are wolves in CT also - and bobcat in central Park, New York City.  and gators in the sewer pipes, and....  did you know there are elk in PA?

molly