Freaks now in the UK - Page 16

Agree Uber Land. Totally.

Dingodog, when you mention ACCEPTABLE colors, are you talking about SHOWABLE standard or REGISTERABLE standard? Because in theory, if a dog is not showable (whether it's shown or not) it's not BREEDABLE.  All the kennel clubs will register anything that comes with a $15 fee...they just won't let it in a show ring.  

Mmm come to this quite late, but have to laugh as there have been freaks in the UK for some time...mostly attempting to conform to the breed standards created clearly by lunatics who have attempted - successfully up to now - to ruin the wonderful breed of GSD. Thanks goodness for the BBC programme which highlighted the over angulation and how crazy breeding to bizarre and perverted breed 'standards' can affect the breed, unfortunately like a number of other breeds. I haven't had anything to do with these colours, but they should not be treated like this forum has treated them. Small minded and warped are terms which come to mind when reading...what people outside the breed would think reading this I can only imagine - it certainly doesn't do the breed any favours....neither do most of the over angulated dogs seen 'promoting' the breed either...what a shame that the breed is full of such awful folk is all I can say! To keep quoting 'breed standards' is a farce, no sorry that's what breed standards have made of many GSDs in this country and others.

kimbailey that was a very good post.

I also have to say in relation to this post;

Freaks now in the UK
by missbeeb on 08 May 2010 - 07:05

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Pridhams, your last post to Pam: I can barely make out the meaning in your text, Wildmoor.

Unfortunately you appear to have lost the concepts of grammar and sentence construction, but I can just about make out what a vituperous, spiteful and nasty piece of work you are.

How sad that you have nothing in your life other than to try to diminish others in order to jolly yourself along.
Have (another) drink, Wildmoor, swallow your bullshit along with it, take your sleeping pills and get yourself off to bed.

Maybe you'll feel better in the morning.
Then you might want to reflect a little on how attempting to make the world an uncomfortable place for others who don't share your ideals has resulted in you turning into a miserable, lonely old bitch.


What an appalling post! I'm ashamed and embarrassed for you!

Uber... yes, Uran produced blues... and more! But nobody took their bitch to him with the sole intention of producing blues! Many breeders have had blues and (less frequently) livers over the years, but they don't TRY to produce these colours! I don't know ANYONE who breeds JUST for colour, no, not even rich black & red, it would be hugely detrimental to the breed... that's obvious, isn't it? Responsible breeders consider everything BEFORE they breed. If non standard colours pop up, they're sold to pet homes with registration endorsements, not killed.


This post was made in specific relation to the post made prior to it relating to this persons dogs so she retaliated, as I think we all would, especially already having a relationship/knowledge of the person it was written to and i think if this post missbeeb quotes has been deleted its only fair Wildmoors post prior to it is deleted also.  Just my opinion. 

The difference  was Laura, Maggie brought her dogs breeding into the thread not me and then accused me of being an alcoholic and a drug user when I do not use drugs whether illicit, prescribed or over the counter medication, neither do I drink alcohol it isn't the first time she has had a go at me, thinks she knows her stuff when all she does is copy and post of the web out of date information.
Either Maggie herself deleted the post or the board owner no one else.

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH! This is freaking me out more and more! I'm going to start drinking now!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZRgjIkmyADoJ:selah1.homestead.com/whitelongcoatgermanshepherds.html+apricot+and+white+german+shepherd&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safariwebcache.googleusercontent.com/search 

Anyone want to know the history of the Selah dogs?

The kennel was started by Alice Fisher, and is now run by her daughter, Judy 

One of her foundation bitches was Super Sweet Sabrina Selah, a dog she purchased from Don Baker. Don bred a strain of GSDs he called 'Texas Woolies' Here's a link that explains the origins of these dogs: www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/user_comments/121849.html

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Amazing what you could get away with before the days of DNA testing, isn't it? 

The Selah website claims Sabrina was 'owned and bred' by Selah. This is totally false. She was purchased from Don Baker

Sabrina was one of the four foundation bitches used by Tina Barber to start the Shiloh breed. When Tina broke with the AKC, Alice was one of the breeders who refused to surrender her AKC papers. She continued to breed large, non-standard GSDs and register them with the AKC. However, because her kennel has Sabrina in its lines, her daughter is registering some of these dogs as both Shilohs AND GSDs!    For more details, go here: www.shilohfraud.com/  and scroll down until you see the name Selah.

I think that dog on the front page of her websites is one of the ugliest I've ever seen. Looks like he also needs to lose about 20 lbs.!  Of course, none of her dogs are titled,

selah1.homestead.com/pg1.html

I have more tolerance than some of you for non-standard GSDs, but kennels like this one make me want to scream.  I wonder if the owners have ever read the breed standard.

Vom Marischal
In the UK KC if it's registerable it's showable and breedable. So if MW is suggesting inclusion of these colours, and the UK KC changed the standard to include them it would allow for showing and breeding, since the KC do not distinguish or have separate registries. The chances of these colours doing well if they were accepted, no matter that they may be the best dog there, is highly debatable.

As MW has said (talking about the SV and sables) so much for bigoted judges. It appears to me that as Uber Land pointed out, they are still bigoted against sable, and you won't see a sable VA, as evidence by the list in Uber Land's link. Again, no matter that they may be the best dog there, their colour will exclude them.

The 'apricot' dog is just a white GSD with poor colouring, and you see them all the time. Calling these colours apricot and whatever is ridiculous and just aimed at puppy buyers who will know no better. You see that all the time too.

Apricot? Scarey, thought that was a poodle colour! This 'breeder' (loose term) is also encouraging owners to glue young puppies ears together? FFS!!!!!!!!