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by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 16:10
"A bitch's progesterone & hormone levels must be kept at a proper level to insure gestation."
Yes, but who does the keeping?
The bitch naturally.
I don't know if there is a way a vet can do so, but even so keeping artificially must be expensive.
If a bitch needs so much extra help may be it should not be bred.
Just keep a healthy body fat content and let nature take its course.
Of course you check progesterone as a parrt of breeding, but to keep it at a certain level is new to me.
Yes, but who does the keeping?
The bitch naturally.
I don't know if there is a way a vet can do so, but even so keeping artificially must be expensive.
If a bitch needs so much extra help may be it should not be bred.
Just keep a healthy body fat content and let nature take its course.
Of course you check progesterone as a parrt of breeding, but to keep it at a certain level is new to me.
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 16:10
"I bought this female in the beginning of September. She was already in heat since about 2 days. I bred her on the 11 th day of her heat cycle. And again a few more times. I don't know exactly her heat cycles because I just got her, I am just going on what the previous owner told me.
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Next time do Progesterone tests.
On P test, likely people do it more frequently (# of tests) than necessary.
Reproductive vets are either fearful of lawsuits or are for money from P-test in recommending every other day test after day 6 or so of cycle. Only in extremely critical breedings is this called for. Your bitch must become pregnant no but or if, you are using frozen semen, or chilled semen to a lesser extent.
Under many, even most circumstances, even just one test is highly helpful and indicative in terms of appropriate course of action.
Ideal situation is when you have a same-day result clinic, not 24 hours and Also when the stud is local and is available throughout the cycle.
If you can assume that your bitch does not deviate greatly from normal, just one test two days after bleeding has subsided will help at lot. The average bitch ovulates on day 12. Say if you can accept that your bitch ovulates any time from day 8 to day 16; one P-test will help at lot.
Result (same day while you wait) less than 0.6 ng/ml, just breed after 6-7 days. There is no chance that it will be too late (might still be too early but reasonable outside risk you take).
about 0.6 to 0.9 , breed after 5-6 days
2.0-2.9, breed after 4-5 days.
2.9-5.0 breed after 2-3 days
5.0-9 breed after 1-2 days
15 breed asap
15-20 chancy but might breed asap.
Fresh semen is effective for at least 72 hours.
Eggs are fertile 48 to 96 hours, at least, 120 hours likely after ovulation. This is why P-tests need not be done very often. Most of the time just two tests.
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Next time do Progesterone tests.
On P test, likely people do it more frequently (# of tests) than necessary.
Reproductive vets are either fearful of lawsuits or are for money from P-test in recommending every other day test after day 6 or so of cycle. Only in extremely critical breedings is this called for. Your bitch must become pregnant no but or if, you are using frozen semen, or chilled semen to a lesser extent.
Under many, even most circumstances, even just one test is highly helpful and indicative in terms of appropriate course of action.
Ideal situation is when you have a same-day result clinic, not 24 hours and Also when the stud is local and is available throughout the cycle.
If you can assume that your bitch does not deviate greatly from normal, just one test two days after bleeding has subsided will help at lot. The average bitch ovulates on day 12. Say if you can accept that your bitch ovulates any time from day 8 to day 16; one P-test will help at lot.
Result (same day while you wait) less than 0.6 ng/ml, just breed after 6-7 days. There is no chance that it will be too late (might still be too early but reasonable outside risk you take).
about 0.6 to 0.9 , breed after 5-6 days
2.0-2.9, breed after 4-5 days.
2.9-5.0 breed after 2-3 days
5.0-9 breed after 1-2 days
15 breed asap
15-20 chancy but might breed asap.
Fresh semen is effective for at least 72 hours.
Eggs are fertile 48 to 96 hours, at least, 120 hours likely after ovulation. This is why P-tests need not be done very often. Most of the time just two tests.
by vandykan on 25 October 2011 - 20:10
I did reproductive toxiciology testing for 7 years. Make sure there isn't any contaminants in her food. Certain compounds will cause reabsorption. Labdiet certifies their food to be free of contaminants. I am not sure if any vets carry that food or not.
by HighDesertGSD on 26 October 2011 - 22:10
I find it hard to believe that only a few foods do not have such contaminants.
by Laker on 27 October 2011 - 01:10
Hi Jen, My female has had the same issue. She was purchased bred and shipped to me here in the US. She had 9 pups,ended up with 3.
She has just been bred for the 4th time ,so we are crossing our fingers as well..Best of Luck !!
by Laker on 27 October 2011 - 01:10
Jen, Sorry ,meant to say my female was bred 3 times and no pups.This will be the 4th time ?? She is an SG1 female,so I hope we have better luck..This is actually my first time with this issue,been breeding for over 20 years..My vet seems to scratch his head ??
by Chaz Reinhold on 27 October 2011 - 05:10
Sad to say, but perhaps that's why they were sold. Mother Nature knows best.
by Mackenzie on 27 October 2011 - 08:10
Many years ago I had a problem with a female in getting her pregnant. A koermeister in Germany told me that I should go to Hannover Veterinary college and have a lutineizing hormone test carried out on the female. The test comprises of a blood sample, a visual inspection of the uterus and an electrical reading from the vagina. With this information it is possible to calculate the first day that the female will be ready for mating. The result of the tests was given to me within thirty minutes.
When I received the results I was not convinced that the effort and the cost (about £30 at that time) was worth it and I did not believe the results. I had taken my female to the stud dog at the time of the first day she should be ready for mating and the male was not interested at all over a period of four days. After four days I went to Hannover for the test and the result predicted that the female would be ready on the 21st day of her season. Upon receiving these results I was full of disbelief and I thought what a waste of money and effort, however, having taken so much trouble to get her in whelp I stayed on in Germany until her 21st day. I duly turned up at the breeders house for a last try to get a mating. As soon as the stud dog saw her he was roaring and could not wait to get to her. The mating was successful and she had seven super puppies.
The next time that I went to Germany for a mating I went to have a different female tested before trying a mating. The result gave the first day she would be ready would be the 18th day and this also proved correct. I did try her twice before the 18th day and the male was half hearted but on the predicted day he was really keen and she duly produced a litter.
If you want more information on this I would suggest that contact be made with the University in Hannover, or, the main veterinary university in Utrecht, Holland.
Mackenzie
When I received the results I was not convinced that the effort and the cost (about £30 at that time) was worth it and I did not believe the results. I had taken my female to the stud dog at the time of the first day she should be ready for mating and the male was not interested at all over a period of four days. After four days I went to Hannover for the test and the result predicted that the female would be ready on the 21st day of her season. Upon receiving these results I was full of disbelief and I thought what a waste of money and effort, however, having taken so much trouble to get her in whelp I stayed on in Germany until her 21st day. I duly turned up at the breeders house for a last try to get a mating. As soon as the stud dog saw her he was roaring and could not wait to get to her. The mating was successful and she had seven super puppies.
The next time that I went to Germany for a mating I went to have a different female tested before trying a mating. The result gave the first day she would be ready would be the 18th day and this also proved correct. I did try her twice before the 18th day and the male was half hearted but on the predicted day he was really keen and she duly produced a litter.
If you want more information on this I would suggest that contact be made with the University in Hannover, or, the main veterinary university in Utrecht, Holland.
Mackenzie
by HighDesertGSD on 27 October 2011 - 18:10
Hello:
Did you do Progesterone tests on previous seasons and still failed? Has P ever gotten above 2.5 ng/ml?
What I am suggesting is that perhaps you could have done P-tests instead.
Did you do Progesterone tests on previous seasons and still failed? Has P ever gotten above 2.5 ng/ml?
What I am suggesting is that perhaps you could have done P-tests instead.
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