showline did it also - Page 3

NIce, that some people know the dog after a 2min. clip and mean, that he can not work.
that means all the judges who have judged him in a trial have tomatos on their eyes.
His out must be quicklier ( read my lips in the video)
Sure in this case his bite must be a little bit more, but normaly he does it.
SchH1 A86,B95,C96
SchH2 A98,B92,C96
SchH3 A98,B96,C97
different judges and different clubs - but you keyboard-kings means, he did not work, you are the greatest !

Don't worry about them enjoy your dog.  

SVSTB, congratulations on a nice dog and to you both for the training you put in.

For people who enjoy the S/L, you show that much is possible.

Rik

SVSTB, I'm impressed, I think he did a great job and is a very good looking dog.It's clear he has the drive,willingness,and courage to do the work and improve with time.I see no need to degrade this dogs performance by anyone,certainly not someone that has only seen a short clip of his work.Oviously you have a clear picture of what you want from this dog in your mind,continue and I'm sure you'll achive it. Again thanks for sharing.



duke1965,
                 Can you say you've never seen a working line dog that did worse? I,ve seen several that did a lot worse, was your  unsolicted critique of the dog, or from the dogs lineage,perhaps you don't see this performance as a step in the right direction for showline breeders and handlers. If you don't see this as fact, it's because you choose not to.

michael , Ive seen bad workinglines too also from famous names but thats not the point

If people make claims about workingability of a showline dog , and show a video , in  which you can see what happened and foremost what didnot happen in training prior to the clip , I call it propaganda


points mean absolutely nothing , Ive seen showlinedogs getting 95 in biting , deserving 75

credit for those deserving credit , Ive seen some showlines really working great , with pressure to perform properly
ill see if I can get videos from them

I love to see a dog who performs great , be it showline or workingline , dont care much which

on one of my trails there was a showline bitch going for IPO3 , she got it with very good well deserved points , and was a plesure too whatch , dont know her name but she was a full sister to djengish kahn santes home

another great dog I personally saw was cash wizzardhof , great dog

 thomsebo nike is a dog that impressed me very much as a showline dog ,working like it should be

so like I saidcredit for those who deserve it workingline or show

svstb with true points like that you should win the WUSV easely , you show exelent bitework in your 1 , 2 and 3
unfortunately the bitework on the clip doesnot show points anyway near the points you posted

" His out must be quicklier ( read my lips in the video) "

I wasn't looking at your lips. I was looking at the dog and his lips. The helper locks up for the out at :10 and your dog starts to chew. Finally at :19 he's worked his way to the end of the sleeve and outs. That's 9 seconds of chewing. Not the full calm grip that's required. Either way the grip needs improvement.

Also: very well said Duke. I too would like to see the video of the bite work from the scores he's posted. They are probably excellent. Unfortunately the one he chose to post was not of that quality.

Well done with Untox at the Sieger Ulm 2009,his bite work was super and very good to see.

Ryan and Karen