Qualification trial - Page 9

Final Scores!!!!

So if you throw out the lowball scores for the WDA participants and also the USCA participants from day one what does the team look like??  Today both judges were giving more equal scores .. how odd??  So it looks like one of the judges picked the USA WUSV team on day one (not sure which judge).  Just another lesson in how the game is played by humans and why the best dog doesn't always win. I think I'll make up teams using individual judges scores alone and see who makes the team??  Shouldn't matter right??

I have to wonder what one judge saw that the other didn't on these scores.
 

11 WDA	Krista Wade (Berlin vom Glucklich Tal)	97	93	78	274.5
		94	97	94

#1 WDA
#2 UScA
#3 UScA
#4 WDA
#5 UScA

Not a bad mix from both clubs.


 

official scores are up
http://2013qualificationtrial.com/results.html

the score i questioned was 87 not 78..........afterall.

 

Nope .. Krista wade lost 20 points on day one between the USCA judge (low scores) and the WDA judge.  The 87 was an average of the two scores not Caputo's score of 78.  The USCA judge and the WDA judge seemed to agree on the USCA participants on day one but the WDA participants were cursed it seems particularly in protection. Krista could have made the team as an alternate or higher (284 - 286) with those 10 points (20/2 = 10 added to her final score).  I wrote an examination of the day one scores and the USCA judge was low-balling the WDA folks.  Who knew??  Day two got better and the judging more fair but you enjoyed a two or three point advantage on each routine if you were USCA on day one.  Makes you wonder how two SV trained and accredited judges can be so far apart??  On day one Caputo was at a different trial when the WDA folks were doing protection giving much lower scores to the WDA paricipants while he and West were in agreement on the USCA participants.  Check the scoring for protection WDA vs USCA by Caputo and West.  West had to be right at least half the time as he agreed with Caputo on the USCA scores.  Caputo did give higher scores than West in protection for three participants .. all USCA.  Jacob Pope and Dwight McKnight got the goob from Caputo for a total of 23 point (10 and 13 points) lower than Judge West on day two in protection.  Next year in the interest of fairness I suggest the judges be blindfolded.

Inasmuch as the composition of the two organizations is different with the UScA favoring working lines and the WDA comprised of many more show line people, it could simply be a matter of the judges differing in what they expect to see in the work.

But obviously only when it comes to protection is there a different *perpective* as A and B phases where fairly close. Caputo scored 4 of the WDA members anywhere from 10 to 16 points lower than West and the other 3 WDA entries got 4-5 lower. That is utter bullshit.

Keith Jenkins

Or, West scored the WDA members anywhere from 10 to 16 points too high and the other 3 WDA entries 4-5 points....

The point is, Keith, neither you nor I were there to form any "valid" opinion other than our own conjecture.

Only Booboo (who also wasn't there) "knows" the truth and the dereliction that "must" have been present.

Too much BS from too many "non players."

Kevin Nance

SV judges should score the same or within 2-3 points. If someone can justify what Caputo did in protection please explain it to me.  I think a little chart showing the relative difference in scores between Caputo and West in all three disciplines over the two different days will prove most enlightening.  There is one IPO standard written by the FCI with a huge amount of SV and German influence which both judges were supposed to follow each time they judge.  They don't get to change the standard based on the situation or the competitors.  I think everyone sees what Caputo did for what it is .. and what it is is nothing new and from the usual suspects who always need an edge or advantage regardless of the rules.  Caputo should have his SV ranking removed as he sure as hell wasn't following their rules or IPO rules.