GSD breeder for ring sport? - Page 9

hi Jeff, the puppies from the Lasso litters are doing fantastic! One seems to have a dose of aggression for sure, but he is much better now and showing more interest in butterflys than dogs, so we are ok with this. He re-directed well last few club visits, seems pretty impartial  to other dogs.

The Lasso puppies continue to have consistent high-intense work, high drive, super trainability, and perfect grips. We could not be happier.

Good luck with the MR3!

German Shepherds can definitely be great Ring candidates. I think the Ring sports are a better tool to test  the dogs tenacity and athletic ability; many GSD from BSP V scores would be hard pressed to take the 6' wall; and I think that is a loss to the gsd breed.
cindy

Quote: Jeff, OK, then there is no need for you to be upset just because good sportdogs with low tresholds and plenty of prey could have other issues not really needed in sport. Slow and defencive dogs I don´t think is the ideal for a dualpurpose PSD, so I don´t know why you keep comming back to that. I also don´t say people should breed slow dogs, just that a very fast and highly trainable dog like the malinois is hard to beat in sport for a GSD, at least when precision and the speed/force of the attack is judged. 

When did I get upset, other than when you kept changing the criteria, and what I said ? I swear, if I stopped responding, you would just argue with yourself. I am not needed. I say the sky is blue, and you go on and on about the how can I say the sky is emerald ? 

Quote: German Shepherds can definitely be great Ring candidates. I think the Ring sports are a better tool to test  the dogs tenacity and athletic ability; many GSD from BSP V scores would be hard pressed to take the 6' wall; and I think that is a loss to the gsd breed.
cindy

I am glad to hear they are doing well, I was pretty sure you were not going to have much of a problem with the bite work. : )

The pallisade is like 7 ft 2 or 3 inches as I am 6'4" and it is over my head quite a bit. : )

If jumping ability is not bred for in the Mals, it goes away pretty quick. Esko can fly in the jumps. He was jumping full height on the pallisade at just under 7 months. I also think if the jumps are not worked early, then the dogs will have problems. I like to have them do a lot of that type of stuff. It is a confidence issue as well I think.

Thanks for the luck, I will not need that with Esko, it is Buko I will need all that and then some. : )

johann

I've have never written about either Lubeck or  Inox's offspring but only on their own caracter and drive and their drive stands far out from Kimbo grandchildren they are more defense driven , I like exstreme prey and drives that is what is takes to make a working dog not mostly defense

I wonder why it is mostly denmark and Sweden that used Kimbo don't ever hear off him in other country's so it does not seem that he stands so much out at a dog that is to be remembered

Belshik Von Der Eickenbrucke is a dog that many off the breeders in Denmark did not use

  he had much more drive than any off the gsd we see today

prey drive that is not looking bad is not good enough for me I'd like to see prey drive like a mal  so much drive that it cant be very difficult to control this type off dog ,as much as  gsd can have it and they can, I have seen it before but too far apart and the dogs I saw in the 90's had much more prey and hunt drives , not saying that health and a clear mind is not important because that is as important


as I wrote I know a breeder in Denmark that has puppies from Valco the french lines dog and he told me that when they where very small they showed drive that you did not see in many off the other litters he had had the they would bite full bite as very young and attack and playbite everything because off the RING lines in the puppies again not the schh pups

gieske

I agree

Jeff

what does low and high treshold mean  when you say it on the forum????

many gsd owners do this before training obedience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UHKJ02Go48&feature=related  in schh training just shows that the dogs does not have speed or the drive in prey since they have to bring the ball all the time
the dog should be in drive when you take out off the car ready to work not that you have to show the ball before and play to get it in drive just proves that many dogs does not have what it take to stay in drive

Any breeder of GSD for ringsport like mondioring and french ring here in US? or in Europe?

Personally at the moment I enjoy training Erko von der Zahnburg in mondioring http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=545538  ( http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeders/43.html ). Some videos of this week's Erko's training (attacks on bunjee):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SECYUqJZnI

 

Shadylady...your hackles are showing...temperament problem....:-)

Myret what are you talking about?  That dog was a puppy, the puppy is learning to work in drive, he is put in drive by the ball.  Everyone I know whether they are working with high drive Mals or high drive GSDs uses the ball for training.  It's a REWARD.  The ball does not "make" drive, the drive is already there,  the ball is a reward, used to teach the dog to work in drive.
 

johann


this is what I like ,drive drive drive

this dog has temperement  and I could imagine hard to control because of his drive that is a driven dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95GNM7GGKVQ








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