2013 AWDF trial Ivan/Ebor protection - Page 8

That's right tell half the truth .. show all the screen shots posted earlier like the one before this (and a millisecond earlier in time) where the sleeve was a foot lower .. that could have been done a lot different.  The helper elevated the sleeve a foot or more as the dog tried to target and then he turned and elevated the sleeve even more.  All of the changes in sleeve elevation happened in less than one second so Ebor never had a target to aim for.  If jerking the sleeve out of the dogs target zone and mouth is the way to save jamming the dog the helper was successful.  Blaming the dog for a helper mistake is pathetic!!!

It was a bad catch, Ivan knows it and Marcus knows it and people who have eyes and a brain know it.
The Mc Klowns of the World will continue to make dumb remarks about others knowledge when their own "knowledge" is limited just like their spelling and  grammar skills. Training at the same club as an expert doesn't make you one. LMAO

Thomas Barriano

Again.....

For those of you who have done helper work

It is hard for me to imagine that there is anything Marcus could have done at this point that would prevent a
grip opportunity.

The dog in my Avatar was a late/non-launcher. Some was his personality/style, some was training. Good helpers
who worked him commented that at least he would never miss a grip even though we could not get that "Flashy"
early launch.  

Like my dog, this Mali appears to be in a position to counter anything Marcus does.

BTW-While I do not know Marcus he has caught my dog in trial. Our "C" scores were not what I wanted-but it was not Marcus'  "fault",
or my dog's.

Mike D.

Mike D, you're right on.  Don't pay attention to the know nothings and shit stirrers.  They try to convince others that know nothing of their intelligence, but anybody that has done anything knows this isn't t-ball.  There are thousand variables that happen right up to the point and after impact.  It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't wrong, but some people just need a reason to complain and lay blame some,where.  They try to use a screen shot, one moment in time to justify their dreamed up conclusions.  They show their ignorance by clinging to that screen shot and the conclusion they draw from it.  Then they make up verbiage like it's part of some rules somewhere about when and how a target is to be presented.  Sorry, but if a dog is 15 feet away, no target needs to be shown, especially at this level.  I was doing a trial, club level, but 3 of the III dogs were looking for qualifying scores.  The judge said he didn't want to see the sleeve come up till the dog was airborne.  So much for their presentation theory.  Anyway those that do, know it's a contact sport with lots of moving parts.  Things can happen without having to find blame somewhere.  But those that don't or can't sit on a keyboard all day.

The great thing about videos is they don't lie.  The video camera has done more to expose liars and posers than any other tool known to man.  So everyone who has a brain and eyes watch the video and then tell me what they see the helper doing when Ebor is 15 feet out, and then 5 feet out and after the helper turns.  What I see is the helper raising the sleeve and raising his entire body  which made the sleeve move vertically around 15-18 inches just as Ebor tried to target and bite.   

we know what you see, the difference is those that do, like me, know why he is doing it.  You're definitely correct about it exposing posers and those that don't know anything.  It's why you arrive at your false conclusion.  But carry on with you keyboard warrior ways.  I'm sure your dogs love you for it.  When will we see you on the trial field??  LOL

Does the sleeve change position or does Marcus change position in relation to the sleeve?

Mike
 

Pretty clear, there is a perfect target there...........and this giant 12-18 inch spring leap in the air is more bullshit, his right foot stays on the ground and his left foot comes up a few inches. If you line the sleeve up with the bushes in the back ground the sleeve overall is actually lower like he was trying to get to where the dog was. 

And, (to Schznd and Mike's point) to protect himself and the dog from a knee high "wreck."

We all, who do helper work, have that occasional dog who comes low, fast and "forgets" to come up to the target.  And, we all come off the field shaking our heads a little "shook up" but thankful if the dog wasn't hurt; then, we figure out "what happened" and fix it.

No DOUBT Marcus would love to have "found" a way to make that catch and save Ebor and Ivan all of their points.  

He is no doubt MOST thankful he found a way to not hurt the dog and STILL gave him a fight chance as he contacted the sleeve.

ALL of Bubba's layman, nonsense aside.

Last post.....  Really; or my wife is gonna' shoot me for being and idiot and continuing to engage.

Best regards,

Kevin

You must explain to your wife that somebody on the internet is WRONG!!! :)