Origin of Arched Back - Page 8

Katrina, wondered how long it would take you, lol. No quotes from any books my love, that's more your style, lol. I distinctly remember saying the words and was pleasantly surprised when he agreed. Great minds think alike I believe was the reply, lol.  Night Katrina, my little no nothing dumpling xx

I am indeed wondrously impressed!

He however qualified the statement further by saying "In the process there was excessive exaggeration with some curved backs"  I think in the interests of truthfulness you should have included that, as it is pretty important for people to know that he acknowledged the issue of 'curved backs' separately from 'roach' backs.

Now,now Bazza and Abby,play nicely.Both of yu have got relevant points.Have to agree with Abby re overangulation  being part n parcel of a curved backline.I cringe at some of the adverts of S/L gsds on this board.It seems to me as if the animal is sinking at the backend thus pulling the backline down in an excessive slope.Not very pleasing to my S/L eye.I wish some on here would go n see the dogs in the flesh n NOT CRITISIZE  from a photo(yes i realise i,ve just done that)I have seen a few over here in the uk too,but not many.Most of the photos i,ve seen on here of W/L have the dogs standing 4 square,perhaps if one put them in a show stance one might even see a CURVED BACKLINE.My S/L bitch HAS A BACK LIKE THAT when not in a show stance n it depends on the handler as to how much curve appears in her backline if they stand her incorrectly.Some photos of her i,ve cringed at as i know her b/l is no way as exagerated as some piccies make it.PHOTOS DO LIE.Carole S.

And where has anyone said there are NO curved backs?  Katrina please stop twisting my words my dear, NOWHERE did I say anyone used my words in ANY book. They were however spoken in one of our many conversations, I believe his words were, my thoughts exactly. I am getting a bit woried about your obsession with me.  While quite complimentary ever so slightly weird, don't ya think?

Now that was well edited Katrina, wow!! Lucky I copied it!!
Hi Carole, now you know me I always play nice, lol

Most of the photos I've seen on here of W/L have the dogs standing 4 square,perhaps if one put them in a show stance one might even see a CURVED BACKLINE.My S/L bitch HAS A BACK LIKE THAT when not in a show stance n it depends on the handler as to how much curve appears in her back line if they stand her incorrectly.

I wholeheartedly agree with that

Ibrahim

Katrina, truthfulness really? Now that is funny, who are you today?

Bazza, you're a fine one to talk about truthfulness!

My first post on this thread was merely to quote one of Preston's posts on the origins of the curved back. He said both SL AND WL often had problems with their backs.

Get your facts straight, please!

  Hi Carole
I must say most WL I have seen here have been stacked, rather than foursquare. Here's a random photo of Pyke von Prevent in quite an extreme stack. 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=511575

Yes photo's can mislead, but seeing them in the flesh - no. Perhaps there is an argument for changing from the show stance to foursquare!
Also these days there is the wonder of youtube. You can watch animals in movement, the BSZS videos Irina put up are great. If you're really clever (or have someone around who is LOL) and you have the right equiipment you can download them and get slow motion views - then you can really study movement in detail.

I am convinced that angulation is a major factor in curved backlines, and we KNOW there is a problem with O/A, because the SV tells us there is, we don't just have to rely on our own senses.

Sorry for the underlining or italics, I can't get it to go away LOL!