My Dogs Did Not Come To My Aid :( - Page 7

Rather than protection training, perhaps you should stick to tricks. When you Finnish teaching your dog to bite the arm of an intruder, then you'll need to put up a sign informing intruders to stand with arm presented to give your dog a proper target....otherwise, all that training will be for naught. LOL

Ah, but a person will instinctively put his arm up to protect his face and head when the dog lunges!

My wife had a old female, she lived in the house ,friendly, was never kept in a kennel. When company came she was never put up, but if you invited them in she would be quiet, and lay down.

We had a ditch rider who would check water every day. When he came by the house would talk to her over the fence. A friendly guy. One day he broke his shovel or something happened to it so he ask the wife if he could borrow one. She said sure and opened the gate and led him to a shed we had. All the racks, shovels and stuff was leaning on it. He was following her and she reached for a shovel and another one started to fall toward her and the guy lunged toward my wife to grab it, and the dog fired on him biting him in the lower back.
 Luckely he was wearing a cowboy belt, but still cut him pretty bad, and was shaking the daylites out of him. She called of the dog instantly, petted the dog on the head, and offered to take the guy to the dr. He declined said he didn't blame the dog. And left.
Even though it was bad, the dog done exactly what it was suppose to do.
  These dogs need to be tested. If it won't bite to protect I don't want it. And in response to what Ronin wrote, most won't if you blast in on one and pressure him quick, they will back off under fast hard pressure, if they can. You are better off to know rather than think you know. Fight training should be a part of it , not just sleeve work. It is no game if someone intends on killing you or causing you harm.
Hank

  Duke1965:

     After getting this far in this thread I , respectfully have to disagree with you....

 Quote from MY DOGS DID :
  "Ah, but a person will instinctively put his arm up to protect his face and head when the dog lunges!"
 

   And the statement asking about  MALS?  and several other deductions, even owning GSD for 34 years does not make a man who needs to go buy a pup that has the quality that WOULD be trained for protection or even just doing what  a real GSD should do without ppt

   NO way in CORN COUNTY, my trainer, David Moore 26 yrs ago would have even let me near a pup from SteinigTal., FLUSStal, until , even knowing I owned a completely  trained GUARD DOG< PROFESSIONALLY used in our automotive shop, dead then, I had been thoroughly versed, shown and evaluated by him, and then he ordered my first foundation dog out of Cadette v BuseckerSchloss.

   No way would I sell one of my pups to someone with the above statements posted on this thread .

  Mine were not pets ., and I would insist he ,no matter how many POLICE trials, police raids you go to or training, which I did many years of, would that give me the END OF THE LEASH training and me even have a clue what I was in for.

  I guess I am old fashioned but the above testimony of VAGUEness is not even anywhere near ready for a dog to use in his home for his own protection or anyone else..

   Obviously he has never had a KONIG , or a THOR or a BEAR on the other end of a leash...

   Poster needs training and some real life coaching before he tries to find a pup.,

   THe dogs you have now are not gonna ever take the incentive. I do not have one gsd on my property that would not entertain , laying  you in your tracks if you came over my fence or entered my home and even made a dance towards me.. YOU would immediately stop in  your advance and I would command, and none of mine have PP on them much less are trained for protection..THEY do it automatically with their inbred instinct as I am alpha master and you just encrouched on MOMS territory in a harsh way.

    you can own 200 german shepherds but you still do not understand PPT.

YR

YR im fine with that, many do

i have a 3 1/2 year old female. who is in no way a IPO dog lol she has a insane nose and that is about it aswell as ball drive. i was in a real situation where i had some people who where walking up behind me i had no idea. she started growling and barking at them and lunged when they got close enough. lucky with all the ruckus she was putting out the men backed off because people where starting to take notice. but everyone told me she wouldent protect me and i had begun to doubt it. well i know she will protect me if need be because of our bond. but if it was someone she knew she probably wouldent do anything tbh.

Spmething must be wrong If a gsd wont defend its handler and the breed is surposed to be a protecter If somerhing happens to its owner not just stand still and watch its pack Leader get beaten If that is normal now for a gsd to react that then somerhing has gone terribly wrong in breeding this breed This breed is surposed to be balanced and should be able to see If its for fun or serious Its should naturelly protect you If the dogs not means they lack the naturelly abillity to see danger and respond to it

myret.its all about demand and supply, most of nowadays demand is for ball and sleevehappy dogs and cautchpotatoes, do many of you people even realize that most dogs are not really biting nowadays but only apporting the sleeve, there are even good trainers today who are training there dogs to pretend to be civil

duke

youre right I dont mind the high prey but damn they should be abble to protect their handler without training breed standard, it must be a good nerve dog solid as not to turn to aggression but again defend his family if needed, it is to be used for almost any sport or work, unfortunately it does not appear and if the dogs are so insecure that they dare not defend their master or family so they do not ski bred in the race under standard

what most og trainors do on the schh field is prey aggression and has nothing to do with real aggression