Look at these hips - Page 7

I am so sorry and your puppy is very lucky to have you. Sounds like you really want to do what is best for him. I don't really understand why people are so quick to want to put this dog down?? If this dog only whimpers when it gets up after a walk he can't be in that much pain. I think you will make the right decision for your pup. There is a reason why this puppy has come into your life and it doesn't sounds like the reason was to be put down. The circumstances are awful and it has made me think a lot about the puppy I just got. I have only had him a couple of weeks and I would be completely devastated if I received news like this on him. This situation has no easy solution.

I am curious about the OFA on the last three generations of this puppy. The reason is because one breeder I spoke to believed that "excellent" OFA dogs were more likely to throw HD. This breeder did seem a little like crazy dog lady:) Was hard to judge if she was off her rocker or crazy like a fox. She seemed to know what she was talking about but then said a few things like excellent OFA dogs were more likely to throw HD pups that made me wonder if she knew what the heck she was talking about. Maybe she was speaking from experience? I know she had been breeding a long time. Just wondering what the rating on the hips of the last three generations on this puppy were? I am not asking for the OFA numbers or for a pedigree or anything like that. I think you are right to keep the breeder anonymous at this time. Just would really like to know the rating on the hips to know if there might be any truth to what crazy dog lady was saying. I know nothing about this subject so I am just curious and trying to learn.

I wish you and your pup the best and my heart goes out to you!!

Was hard to judge if she was off her rocker or crazy like a fox.

Probably "off her rocker" and "crazy like a fox", since her theory simply does not have any kind of logic to it, and  does not meet the smell test.

Of course anything is possible, since there could be situations where HD was lurking as a recessive all along, and in the earlier generations, simply did not express itself due to the pairing with an appropriate partner.  And in the current generation, when the partner was not selected appropriately, the recessive no longer remained so and came out as full HD.

Yes I agree with you aaykay that her theory didn't pass the "smell test". Would be interesting to see if her "theory" had any merit to it. I am guessing no but you just never know:) Is there no DNA test for HD?

All the best for your pup Chrissy. If you try to find vet clinics in a little less "metropolitan" areas (ie the big cities), you may well find them to be much more reasonable in price as well. At least thats the way it is around here, some areas are almost double the price for anything (vaccines etc) just because of location.
Curious, did you shoot his elbows too? You may want to if you haven't.

In regards to peoples interest in the breeder, it's a normal inquiry.
People want to know who bred a dog that got smacked twice really hard with the shit luck stick and is suffering at a young age.

They also want to know if the breeder will step up and help the puppy buyer out, or if they just wash their hands and walk away.

Thats not a unusual inquiry. Almost every person that has posted hip xrays has been asked how their dog is bred. It's a normal question with people involved in working/trialling/training their dogs. Most will be looking for another prospect eventually, and would like to file away this type of info for future reference.

Of course not everyone here is privvy to all the issues this owner has suffered with her pup, but there was a couple discussions on another GSD board about this same puppy started by the owner, so those that are aware of the additional back story are very curious now to see if there will be honor and ethics, nevermind what a contract might/might not say, but whether the breeder/broker will do whats right in this situation.

An offer of another puppy is fine and well, but, who will pay the shipping on that one too? And will it arrive with a bad overbite as well? This girl has a tremendous amount of money already invested in this young pup, purchase price and shipping aside.

This girl obviously loves her pup and is sticking by him, which she should be commended for. It doesn't seem like he won't be able to live a normal active pet life after surgery. She has been hit hard financially standing by this pup, and she is obviously invested emotionally as well, so I can understand her desire to exhaust all options for the pup. Thats not unreasonable, as long as the quality of life the dog has is the main concern.

Chrissy, I was told to pass along, if you start with that Schiff supplement, that you should sign up to their site, you earn points or something like that.

For now, keep him lean and fit. Yucca is also a great anti-inflammatory, kelp also contains some important trace minerals. Just ease into any supplement regime, you don't want to cause tremendous gastric upset trying to help.

Above post said it better.

We were posting at the same time workingdogz, great post.

Pass the coffee RS

It does amaze me that some people want to just disregard the breeder/broker that produced/sold/shipped this pup.

This pup is a baby yet and has already required surgical procedures to lead a normal life ie: be able to eat and not be in pain.
The buyer was not made aware of the severe overbite on the pup prior to it being shipped. There were pictures posted of this overbite, a blind man could see the puppy had a problem. This girl paid not only for the puppy, but shipping from the breeder/brokers kennel in Europe.

This puppy comes from a kennel that raves about how super their customer service is, and how healthy the dogs are that they produce.
So yes, I am one that thinks the dogs pedigree/breeder/broker info should be posted here. Out of respect for the owner of this walking vet bill pup, I won't.

I do hope the puppy owner does inform everyone how things turn out in regards to any renumeration from the breeder/broker.

I will also be amazed if Chrissy ever wants another GSD...being hit like this with health issues is enough to turn alot of people off.

Yes, any and all breeders can and have produced dysplastic puppies, puppies with bad bites, puppies with bad nerves, etc etc.
It happens to even the most experienced breeder.
But, the fact is, this girl started out with a major problem that was "somehow missed" prior to shipping.

I know Chrissy from another board, and she has gone so much above and beyond for this poor puppy:(  Beautiful boy he is, and I would most likely be trying to do the same thing she has been doing if it were my puppy.

While I know crap happens, if I were a breeder, I  would be more than willing to return her purchase price in it's entirety so she could defray medical cost if that is the route she chose..  I know alot of breeders won't do this and that's their choice.   In a case like this tho, it wouldn't break the bank, and would show true caring and standing behind the dogs produced by said breeder.

I have a friend who breeds labs, she has been a surgical vet tech for over 20 years, she stands behind her dogs, I know for a fact she has paid for surgeries and reimbursed buyers should a serious problem arise such as this.  That tells me she has compassion for the dogs she produces and really cares about their welfare.

I know who the breeder is, and honestly it disappoints me :(

Has Chrissy said yet what the breeder has offered?

It's gut wrenching. Chrissy never would have gotten this pup if the blatant overbite had not been overlooked or whatever happened to cause the little guy to be sent to some one anticipating a healthy, happy puppy to arrive in her heart.