Teaching the "fuss" - Page 7

Not sure I explained myself properly. My want my dog in the correct heel position with focus but if I don't have focus all the time it is not the end of the world but I do want my dog to be in the correct heel position all the time. This is what I mean by people fixated on focus but not  the correct heel position. I believe you can train both.

So you are saying that a dog that is taught to heel correctly with focus is going to look less drivey or less happy to be there. Watch this video and let me know what you see. If you have the right dog with the kind of temperment needed you can have a dog that will focus, heel correctly, be drivey and happy all at the same time. Claudia is an amazing trainer so I am sure that makes a difference but the dog also has what it takes for the whole pic I want to see.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURaEkImDWc


Denise

Denise, I love that video.  I'm a SchH noob but for me that video represents pretty much an ideal BH routine as far as what I aspire to!

I differ from you a little bit though in that at this point I look more for drive and focus than precision as far as position.  I think this is because my older dog has very correct position in everything she does but lacks the drive and intensity.  I've done various venues of obedience and other performance events with her and now with my puppy (well he's 13 months) I'm trying to learn the other side of it, how to build the drive and intensity.  I sort of have a "been there, done that" attitude about training perfect position.  Right now my dog is often "crabby" but I have so much fun working with him!  Obviously the ideal is both but I guess based on my experience I am having more fun building the drive and intensity first (now the dog is at a point and an age where he understands what we are looking for and we are being more strict with position).  My older dog looks very correct but trying to build more drive in a 6 year old dog is an uphill battle.

DENISE,

Like i said, If you can pull a V score you are a pro and Claudia Romard is a pro, she has the skills and
ability to get what you like and keep it that way thru the whole trial, YES, She is a perfect  !!!   i myself don't have that ability and the know how
to maintain a dog for such a long time without doing something to encourage the drive,
If you can more power to you that is great. Do you have a video clip of you training your dog without using a ball/food/tug
Or additional voice commands that we can see??
People like Claudia Wallace Floyd Carlos Diehl Debbie Honda Calderon Ivan John Charlie are top level competitors they need to have a perfect picture, im just looking to go get my Sch2 with my show bitch i need drive in order to pass and it will be nice but i can forget about the correct basic position in heeling.
So again congrats to Jyl the picture is very good you are showing power.

V.

 Jyl, 

Great Ideas! Although, I am sure your pedigree has something to do with it! I am partial to those killer Czech bred girls as well.  My girl is getting the "look" command after a few short sessions, and my girl just sits and looks EXACTLY like Jyl's dog in the second photo (eye contact) anytime we are together. If I can only get her to heel like the first one, I'll be on my way. This was a good topic, and thanks to those who shared some very helpful info!

Pro work



          T Floyd                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwWKSQGar70
        
  

              Charlie Mazarra                       http://www.aceofnike.com/mov/nikeobedience.htm



            Carlos Rojas            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcpbnE5nHs&feature=player_embedded


             




V.

Does anyone have a video of Mike Diehl when he won the north american this year???
V.



PS    GOOD LUCK TEAM USA IN GERMANY     GO MIKE    GO CHARLIE    GO DANA  GO USA

Well "V" there is a difference between my pup and your dog. I don't have to worry about drive or temperment, my pup has that, so since you have to find ways to bring up your dog's drive then yes you have to do what you have to do to maintain that drive. I have said many times each and every dog is different and what works for you may not work for me.

I never claimed to be a pro and yes, Claudia is one along with the rest you mentioned but just because she is a pro does not mean I can't get the same pic. My pup has the drive and temperment to get that pic and that is what I am aiming for, it is up to me to get to that point and I believe we are heading in that direction. My TD is a pro so I am in great hands. When you don't have the drive or temperment to get that desired pic in heeling it makes it very hard but you do the best you can and have fun doing it and it looks like Jyl is having fun.

I do have video of my pup doing some beginning OB in the beginning of this thread but of course no video without the ball or food, after all he was only 4 mo old in the video. You will never see a video of my dog without some type of reward until the day we trial so when that time comes I will have a video and will be happy to share it.

Also "V" remember there is no such thing as perfect and dogs are dogs not machines, I have a goal and I will work as hard as I can to achieve that but it does not mean I will.

Denise

Jettamom
A BH with happy feet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURaEkImDWc


gdsports
more happy feet
http://www.aceofnike.com/mov/nikeobedience.htm

Beautiful patterns!

Thanks for supplying links.