Need Help-Desperate Situation for Members of Dog Training/Schutzhund Community - Page 6

Well, then you have your criteria, and I have mine. This one is a pass for me because it does not meet my "honest and desperate" threshold. Certainly posting the pedigrees of the dead VA dogs to honor their tragic passing would have been a proper, first response. Not some stranger several states away with a tear jerker of a story. Where are the families of the victims? That is where they should have a first line of support? 

The vehicle they have is barely functional, and they are trapped in a hotel in Kentucky, the dog trailer was totaled,,,so how did any dogs survive the trailer being totaled, how did they get from near Macon, Ga to Louisville,Kentucky in a barely functional vehicle? How come they were just asking for a place to rent five or six days ago and didn't mentioned they were destitute because of an horrendous wreck ?

I can't stand getting involved in crap like this.

Peter and Petra have been around the Chicagoland area for the past 5-6 years. (southern Wisconsin, northern Illinois and Springfield, Illinois) I have spoken with them on a number of occasions at various events around the midwest. I have a few friends that they have handled dogs for in conformation shows. With all the crap being bandied about I asked one of them to call. I do not have all the details, but, according to what my friend was told, they were in an accident and two of their dogs were killed. Peter had asked those who stopped to help to help him gather the dogs. Apparently some of the people were afraid of the dogs and unable to hold them. One ran on to the highway and was killed by a semi. No info on how the 2nd dog died. Petra is not in terrible shape. Pretty much a concussion and the aftermath of one. They are in a motel in Kentucky and trying to find a place to live. According to my info they are not in Louisville, so, I doubt the Walmart story is related, but, who knows.
As for accidents being reported in the news, don't always count on it. At least not in Kentucky.
I was driving back to Chicago from Lexington two months ago. I was on I-64 heading west about half way between Lexington and Louisville. It was around midnight and there was a pretty nasty accident across in the eastbound lanes. There were cars flipped over in the ditch and a few others on the road. A lot of police and a lot of ambulances. Eastbound I-64 was shut down and backed up for a few miles. Over the next few days when I had gotten back home I tried finding info on the accident and never found anything.

I understand the skepticism surrounding them and this has gotten a bit out of control.
I hope they and their dogs will be okay and R.I.P. to the dogs who perished.

More questiosns: What is a foundation stock breeding VA dog worth any way? You mean to tell me their whole net worth was tied up in the dogs that were supposedly killed? How about putting up the dead dogs' pedigrees for all to see and mourn?

Just a tad bit morbid don't you think?

Why does EVERYTHING have to be disclosed here for all to see when the OP STATED her email address and told anyone that was interested in helping in anyway to contact her directly and she would disclose then. You either want to help or you don't that is the only question that needs to be answered and you are the only one that can answer that. If you want all the juicy details then email the OP, or do you just want more crap to gossip about? Oh and it is being negative and I think there is some bashing going on. If you don't like the people the topic was started about then fine, but it seems to me most, not all, but most of the negative posts are coming from people who don't want to help either way, they just want something to talk trash about.

I don't think it is morbid at all! This is what was provided as valid information to strangers. I have no interest tracking someone down so I can give them money. See, usually the person asking for money from a stranger is a whole lot nicer! It isn't about juicy details, it is about simple facts, like a pedigree to the dog(s) that perished. That is such a simple, normal request to ask when one comes beseeching on a site called Pedigree Database, from strangers.

So what's the problem? They have a place to go to or not? Renting a vehicle is not an outrageous thing to contemplate. These people do not have a credit card and they are business people? No family?  Sure think me harsh, but these are everyday common sense things to me. Explain those first, and save the moralizing.

The fact is the people in the accident actually didn't ask for help directly. Their situation is dire, but they haven't felt the need to ask for any help except housing options.

From the people they know who have offered, the only thing they ask for is a tiny bit of help for the dogs, and any potential leads on a place to live. That is their main concern. Having a place to sleep at night for their family.

The help they needed, they asked for. They aren't asking for money, just leads on a place to live.

Someone else came on here asking for donations in their favor. They might not have permission to post the entire story, and they have only been told the story, not living it. Some facts they may have mixed up or gotten wrong. It's what happens, people make mistakes.

If you want to help Peter and Petra themselves, offer your sincere help to them personally. Their information is available, they are obviously members here who can receive PM's and people here are Facebook friends. If you really do want to help someone, then take the chance to go to the stories source to begin learning about the situation and what you can do. I did, the information is true, the story makes sense, and I feel completely terrible for them. Talking about shoulda, coulda, woulda's with some ignorant judgements gets absolutely nowhere except showing us how much you love to gossip and stir drama.

I would think if all they want is a place to rent, spending time on the internet should be spent there and not here.

But that's the point Chaz, they are not here. Someone else is trying to seek help for them. They did not ask anything from us. They posted a brief post for help to see if anyone knew of anything and left it at that while they continued their search. That is all. Me and my friends have discussed potential leads on places for them and are doing our part. They are living and breathing it, actively looking everyday while recovering from a traumatic experience and a great loss. They are obviously the most desperate to change the situation.

Well, the thread started by Petra had advice. Gene is a realtor in BG, their destination. BG is full of dog people outside of Gene. Tammy is there and I believe she is a realtor. Mohawk john is there. Tom Trainor used to be there. Call Gene or Tammy and ask if they can find a rental. tell them the situation. Offer money. If they want to help, they'll turn down your money. If they accept your money as a fee, then you can ask for donations.

I had felt sorry at first.. but it also feels like a set up.. we here reading this cant ask questions? We just need to hand over money without any circumstances? Just put our blinders on and give a blank check?.. sure.. where do I sign up?.. We live in a society of scammers.. if this is a true welfare case (in needing help.. not food stamps) then it seems they wouldnt be so defensive on questions raised..! I would gladly give away info if I truly needed real help! This feels like.. "help me .. but how dare you ask anything personal about the situation.. shame on you.." !  I am truly confused !  It was put on a 'public' forum .. so I want public answers.. if I were asked for monetary help ! just sayin