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jaymesie51

by jaymesie51 on 20 June 2010 - 11:06

 Pencil you really are a sad sad person but never mind i am sure someone somewhere loves you i will be there cash in hand you just make sure you turn up and dont do the british sieger out of the money if you look at the catalogue i will have dogs entered they will be numbered and i am sure that even you will be able to work that out then come and see me with the proof i have asked for then you can chum me to see steve getting the money 
jim h

by NO FEAR on 20 June 2010 - 21:06

forget bout xaro . we all know german handler owner & uk ones too wear tops speak too & genrally try ta influnce judge but if rumoor mill true why was owner handler of bitch ticket allow to take copy o koreung into judge to prove that all her teeth had been ther once . is this no against kc rulles  .if dis no true then ther is lot of gossip for nuthn but lik alway ther no smoke witout fire


NikkiF

by NikkiF on 20 June 2010 - 22:06

There is no KC rule that says you cannot give the judge proof of a tooth breakage or removal - in fact in England a vets letter is sufficient proof that the tooth was there and the same with a Koerung - done in the year a dog is 2 years of age is notification that all teeth were present at that time.

by NO FEAR on 21 June 2010 - 05:06

nicky

i understand dis but is koreung a bit more info than jus sayn teeth wer der surly presentn dis gives unfair advanage n i wud ave tought dis against rules

Videx

by Videx on 21 June 2010 - 06:06

Kennel Club Rule: F(1) 3.56 - 17g 

Printed awards may not be displayed in the ring except when judging is taking place for Groups and Best in Show. Nothing may be carried, worn or displayed by a handler or a dog in the ring which is capable of indicating the identity of the exhibit, owner or company which might be sponsoring that handler or dog. Nor must anything be said or any action be taken which identifies the exhibit other than by exhibit number.


Videx

by Videx on 21 June 2010 - 06:06

Kennel Club Rule F - 3.47 - 12

The Secretary of a Show must immediately report in writing to the Secretary of the Kennel Club any case of alleged fraudulent or discreditable conduct, or any default, omission or incident at or in connection with the Show which may come to his notice, even where parties concerned have indicated that they intend taking no action and at the same time forward to the Secretary of the Kennel Club all documents and information in connection therewith which may be in his possession or power. If evidence is placed before the General Committee to its satisfaction that undue influence has been exercised by any person(s), or that any improper means have been used to influence the appointment of a Judge or interfere with the exhibition of a dog at any Show held under Kennel Club Rules and Regulations, The General Committee may require all correspondence and evidence in connection with the case to be produced in order that it may deal with the offender(s) under Kennel Club Rule A42.




by Penny on 21 June 2010 - 09:06

If that happened guys - then ok you are right, it shouldnt have happened that the judge saw the full details of this femaile, but hang on - I was second to her - and thats just where I should have been, with a very out of coat and just in season girl, that didnt perform fantastically as I know she can.
I wouldnt like to this females top award taken from her, and given to the next one down (mine) as it would not be a worthy decision.   No one can take away the fact that her performance, and her condition put in the best on the day, and I would rather compete with her another day when Dessie looks in top nick again, than take a well deserved first from Biene. This is all about etiquette in the ring again, not the dog -  you have to look at the fact that the female that won, was deservedly so....    Mo.

by Doppelganger on 21 June 2010 - 10:06

Penny, you are describing in perfect detail one owner handler who I have seen on many occasions!  I am sure several of you on here will know exactly who I mean.   Actually thinking about it, it could be one of two!

missbeeb

by missbeeb on 21 June 2010 - 10:06


Biene deserved to take the ticket on the day... no doubt!  If she is missing a tooth and has proof that she had it... what's the problem?  You HAVE to provide evidence, don't you?  How anyone can interpret this as an advantage is beyond me... on top of that, I believe the judge was honest with her placings.

If there's one thing that really does kill the show scene, it's this kind of thing imo... God forbid you should win, because someone will tear you and or your dog to pieces and maybe even call themselves your friend... to your face!


by Doppelganger on 21 June 2010 - 10:06

Missbeeb, its seems its not just the show scene, GSD folks seem determined to argue about anything and everything.  English/German, BAGSD/GSDL, double handling/no double handling, soundness/unsoundness, KC/SV, CC's/no CC's - - and thats just off the top of my head!   Soon we will be hearing of arguments about dog v bitches.   Why can't people accept there are different opinions and get a life. 





 


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