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Told  you so.....save you wise advice for someone who actually wants it. He already knows it all.

Well so much for the "be kinder in 2013"

Barb

Its worth a try ;)


Paul

Wow everyone must have had a hard day today because if I were the guy, I would have tuned out from the 3rd or 4th post. I stopped reading after half way through the second page. How can someone learn if he is being dragged over hot coals while being stoned? What happened to some support for him wanting to learn. True the breeding should not have taken place without untitiled dogs but hell, we read worse than that on this board every day from folks who should know better.

Why turn him off to learning when he has come here to do so? 3 pages of bashing?

OP you had mentioned that it takes alot to get the dog riled up. Ive worked dogs like this and it gets frustrating because you have to put so much in and your dog just doesn't have what it takes. Maybe this isnt what HE likes to do. Maybe he would have more fun tracking or herding. Find what he likes and it makes for a much better reward for the both of you. If you really want to continue doing SCH, then you may need to find a dog that has more drive. We all have started somewhere but it's through our dogs that we learn so much.

Good luck
Barb

Blitzen that is the exact attitude I was talking about.

Barb and Paul thank you.

Susie thank you also for a post from another thread "DIVERSITY of the German Shepherd in its origin means breeding ONE breed suitable for all.
This breed wasn´t bred to be the best in ANYTHING, but to be good in EVERYTHING."

That is what gives me hope that I am quite correct in believing in my dog. he has shown everything but " prey drive" and I think this can be brought out in him to where he will be a dog that is suitable for all.

By all means, believe in your dog. I sure never said you shouldn't.

Just don't breed him anymore, that's all. 

Work on the prey at home if you can. Will he get the ball?

Paul

yes he will get the ball but he seems bored with it. He is much happier when he is rounding up the chickens for the night to get them in the coop.

"Its worth a try ;)

Paul"

You'll have to pardon me for saying that that seems somewhat hypocritical coming from someone with your sanctimonious attitude.  Just sayin'...

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Keith. The dog has no drives, because there are no drives in his lineage. I agree that the health of the dog, the temperment of the dog, and the well-being of the dog are extremely important. But that's important in having a pet, not a show, not a working, and definately not a breeding dog. That's the bare minimum of a dog. The dog should demonstrate what is needed for breeding stock, not just the health, temperment, and well-being, but the pedigree, the working ability, and the conformation of the dog as well. I'm sure the dog is a great dog, but please do not breed him. And you shouldn't be shocked when he doesn't demonstrate the drives that some working dogs do, because he really has no genetics to rely on.