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by Kevin Nance on 28 March 2012 - 16:03
by Kevin Nance on 28 March 2012 - 16:03
by Ibrahim on 28 March 2012 - 16:03
Ibrahim
by Hundmutter on 28 March 2012 - 17:03
Carole S - Hello ! Yes, am well, thanks. Hope u r 2 ?
AbbyNormal - IMO when you mention placement of the (whole)
ANATOMY in that context people will read: "She's saying all their
bones and organs are somehow scrunched up / in the wrong places".
I don't think I've got anything closed if I disagree with that picture.
So I'm sorry about my "shorthand" but I really feel we should be careful
about both the terminology and the audience.
When someone as experienced as Carole Lister suggests people should
READ about the breed, its no good just seeing her post and thinking
"Yeah but they won't" - so if someone has to goad people a bit (to get
them to look stuff up, even if just to prove cynics like me wrong), then I'll
do that.
Given that most dogs in the flesh (even a high % of those in the pix)
look far less exagerated / deformed than when stacked badly, I doubt their
ligaments, muscle structure etc is actually any different, even in really poor
topline cases, than the normal range (and it will be a 'range').
As 'noddi' describes, there are many different aspects to how a dog looks in
outline, depending on how they are standing.
I have seen her bitch many times, in and out if the Showring, and can vouch
for what she says (just as I know it from the many dogs, SL & WL, I've
handled myself.)
While I am not justifying them, the brachycephalics do have internal compromises
yes, but they are related to skull / jaw shape etc, not the 'whole body' extent
your post seemed to imply is the situation with GSD toplines.
Do you know how rare Cauda Equina is, in terms of the numbers of GSDs in this
world; can you say hand on heart (better, prove) that these cases are all in a
certain shape of dog /topline / back / croup ?? Not aware of any research or
stats which would back this. A fair chance it would not correlate; just as there
is nothing to show that cow-hocked dogs are always the ones which end up
with locomotor problems.
Joanro - "overbuilt" is a piece of decriptive terminology; not an endorsement
or recommendation.
See what I mean about needing to be so careful of words we use ?
BTW Y'know, its weird that we only have this sort of conversation in GSDs, I
never see e.g. Borzoi or Bedlington people going on about how the shape of their
dogs' backs is so unaesthetic / unacceptable / unhealthy.
by joanro on 28 March 2012 - 17:03
by joanro on 28 March 2012 - 18:03
by Red Sable on 28 March 2012 - 18:03
by noddi on 28 March 2012 - 18:03
by joanro on 28 March 2012 - 18:03
by myret on 28 March 2012 - 18:03
I see the differense the other one has a more straight back beutiful built gsd stunning
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