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Get back on your meds, I QUOTED YOU VERBATIM, YOUR OWN WORDS.  You stated that you cannot speak softly to a dog and expect respect in return.  Did you or did you not?

IPO Championship, 90+ dogs, my country sent 5 dog/handler teams, my dog and I were one of them.  How many dogs start in the sport and don't make it?  So, I'll take that percentage any time.

I never made specific implications to battles or wars or the people who have given their lives to fight them.  I made reference to the fact that our forefathers kicked your forefathers out of our country, simple. factual, undeniable.  Has nothing to do with this conversation.  I'm not angry about it but apparently you are.  You forget that you are the one who repeatedly brings up the homeland card while bragging about the training in Belgium being the "best in the world".  Good for you, the rest of us should just quit playing the sport and send Belgium the trophies every year.  As a rule I don't chirp about my dogs or their accomplishments until someone gives me the "what have you done".  I do my training because I enjoy it not because you are supposed to be impressed by my doggie or "my baby daddy". 

Your opinion on American politics is for another forum.  Have fun with that.

BTW, what is the opposite of soft?  Just answer the question please, you don't have to write volumes, just a one word answer will be fine.

It is kinda funny, my tone of voice in training is quiet soft. One judge told me that I need to speak up.. I told him to get a hearing aid, my dog can hear just fine. I raise my voice only if the dog is in drive and needs a louder command in order to register, not becasue he is deaf. So I do yell and screem.. however my dogs could care less becasue they do not respond.. maybe mext time I can add on backflips and a shot gun.
To the OP, get help, private trainer and good luck, you will need it.

Thank you Pack, that was kinda my point.  That was the purpose of my earlier post before it got sidewinded by the PDB Minister of Propaganda.

Many years ago I bought my wife a WL GSD as a gift.  We went to the breeder to get the pick puppy after placing a deposit ahead of time.  This man imported many Vrated KK1 dogs and produced some of the best police dogs in the midwest at the time.

He suggested a puppy that was mild mannered and not dominant since we had some young kids.  But she immediately noticed the alpha male who was quite dominant.  He would growl at the other puppies when the food bowl was put down and not let them eat until he was done. He also just happened to be the most outgoing, most friendly pup and this impressed her.  The breeder warned us that we could be in for a tough first year or so and said that we needed to have a large supply of nylabones always available.

This puppy was very loving but he grabbed the kids hands when playing and bit everything.  We had to wear gloves when playing with him.  He always carried a nylabone everywhere and he did chew up some furniture along the way.  But he was very smart, rock solid and very loving, just happened to be a little piranna mouth.  At 9 months my wife took him to a local obediance class with a well lnown highly respected trainer who had won national contests with her goldens. I bought a pinch collar for her to use for the classes. The trainer was horrified and wouldn't allow it.  The dog dragged my wife around the whole first hour and terrorized the other dogs (he didn't try to bit them but he growled at them and tried to dominate).  The trainer reluctantly decided to allow us to try the pinch collar the next time, but she felt that this was bordering on cruelty.  With the pinch collar the dog was good as gold and ended up being first in the class and all other subsequent classes.  After he became a year old, he calmed down and was superb in every way and always friendly around our neighbors and guests.

The moral of the story.  A top bred dominant WL GSD can be very challenging the first year but if one stays with it and hangs in there everything will turn out okay.  We did not use any overly strong corrections for the biting, because it would have done no good anyway, we just kept a big supply of nylabones and we wanted to allow the puppy to keep his srong sense of confidence. His biting was play to him and an he was never aggressive to our kids, but did a great job watching over them and was a great family guardian.

Preston
That was a good post and i guess it was directed to the OP of this thread and the way her Pup was handled and the time it had in weeks to what passed. Yes they nip and try it on My latest is such a Pup the marks on my arms prove that but will a little direction he is getting to know he cannot bite human flesh but it will not stop over night but he will stop and it will not be by putting him in a down for 30 minutes or so, They turn out to be great dogs in the end family wise and for other thikngs there is nothing worse in my eyes for the Sport than a soft Dog and many own these sort of Dogs but have never owned a dog with real Spirit so they simply do not know the difference, They think they have a tough Dog but tough is tough or put it another way a hard headed dog
Steve1

Dudering
This will certainly be my last post to you and the last on this Forum and you can say 'Hooray' IT is pointless posting when some on here cannot accept another way a country works there dogs in the context i have been talking about, it is a complete waste of my time. I relay on here what the top Guys work on over here, not my working out of a system but long practised with great results but what do we get you do not know what you are talking about, that means nor do the Guys in Belgium who have taught me and with there record in the dog world that alone proves how conceited some on here are to even think that way, There are many ways to train dogs but you guys are the only ones to know how to do it properly it seems
You twist words around to bring them in a different context, Soft Mincy voice is not the same as soft it is the Voice the way the words are spoken not the volume that comes out that is what i said and you know what i mean but you twist it round to a one word meaning then apply the opposite to that word, 
Now you keep refering to my age and to take my Meds, I have never so much as touched a pep pill in my life i have no need to take pills to keep in good health i saw the Doctor last Jan for my yearly check up not since. But you are one of those people who look down on the ones getting older and i can tell you my brain cells are fully functioning still as is EVERY part of my body so i am not yet passed my sale by date.
The day may come when you reach my age i hope i can look down and see what condition you are in then compared to what i am now, if you are then you will be a lucky man like me and be thankfully that you are, The Good Trainer who told me what some of the Dog people were like and he was correct in your case and there is at least one other like you on here know alls and do not recognize any other countries training methods as good as that country is and i am refering to Belgium One of if not the top Sport Dog country in the world, proven fact over the last 15 years in the WUSV and good in the Ring Sport as well mostly in the past it is on the decline over here but you are so full of yourself you are not man enough to admit it but keep twisting around like a worm on a hook, NO' mate i do not need to take meds or have i ever had a shrink or visited one i will not bet that you are not on both by the time you reach my age 
Steve1

 Not joining in the argument but I do believe when he was talking about not speaking soft and mincy he did not mean shout.  The opposite of soft and mincy would be concise and assertive or authoritative.  A LOT of people especially women have a tendency when giving a command to fluctuate up at the end of the command making it sound like a question.  The dog won't respond to that and we all know this.  You need to say the command like you mean it.  That doesn't mean shouting or raising your voice.  My husband for example was new to working dogs until he met me.  Now I like my dogs hard and hard headed that personality works well with mine( prob bc I'm fairly hard headed.)  When I finally got a bitch that he wanted to work so he could learn I tried explaining this same concept to him.  It is hard to explain over the computer or over the phone, we aren't going to teach anybody to train over the internet.  But the best way I could explain it to him was act like you own your dog, because if not with these guys they will be more than happy to own you! I do believe that is the point Steve was trying to make. Don't let your dog train you.  He never said shout at your dog, he never said he kneed his dog, he said he brought his knee up and when the pup jumps it pops it's head on his knee.  You have been arguing to be right which in turn means you aren't willing to "listen" to anything the other person said.  Why is it somebody on the computer that has a point of view that differs from yours upsets you that much? I would venture to say neither of you really care what the other person thinks of them, and if you do you shouldn't. You both seem to be well established in the area you have chosen so let it be I'm sure you have more important things you would enjoy spending your time and energy on then making the other mad. 

Good gosh people! The difference between a PUPPY that chews on shoes, feet, leashes or anything else and one that doesn't is a smart patient owner. These posts are so entertaining :)