GSD Rescue BREEDING a RESCUE Dog!!!!! - Page 5

Drako

You still have not answered the question about the ORIGINAL DOG that Rae wants to breed. Has the Rescue had her SPAYED?? Simple question, Should be a simple answer.


Helen

PS: I posted my name, what is yours?

Hey Drako,

 You asked for proof, here you go. This is the first e-mail from the rescue asking for the dogs AKC papers after she has been in rescue for voer 3 months and is still unspayed!

From: Rae Davidson
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:28 am
Subject: Maggie Mae


Beth,

I need to talk to you. I want to get Maggie Mae's AKC papers. Can you help me? Please put me in contact with the people I can get them from. I've attached pictures that are not the best quality so you can see her.

Regards,
rae
www.GSRFL.org
352-347-5507

I certainly know of absolutely no reason why a rescue would be wanting AKC papers on a dog relinquished to a rescue! They actually had hte puppy application already in the paperwork given to them with the dog but they apparently were too stupid to realize that!
And as for the person who relinquished the dog, she has NOT posted ANYTHING!! The rescue came on here attacking this person!!

Melody,
Texas Hills GSD

Hey DraKo,

 You asked for proof, here you go. This is the first e-mail from the rescue asking for the dogs AKC papers after she has been in rescue for voer 3 months and is still unspayed!

From: Rae Davidson <raedavidson@Embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:28 am
Subject: Maggie Mae


Beth,

I need to talk to you. I want to get Maggie Mae's AKC papers. Can you help me? Please put me in contact with the people I can get them from. I've attached pictures that are not the best quality so you can see her.

Regards,
rae
www.GSRFL.org
352-347-5507

I certainly know of absolutely no reason why a rescue would be wanting AKC papers on a dog relinquished to a rescue! They actually had hte puppy application already in the paperwork given to them with the dog but they apparently were too stupid to realize that!
And as for the person who relinquished the dog, she has NOT posted ANYTHING!! The rescue came on here attacking this person!! A couple of us who are her friends took it upon ourselves to post this as we felt it needed to be brought to the publics attention!

Melody,
Texas Hills GSD

I believe the rescue already stated why they wanted the papers.

"If you were not so intent on defending a posititon with no truth you would clearly see we mention Hunter's AKC papers in his description on our website and clearly say they are worthless as there is no history of OFAing hips and elbows making Hunter basically backyard bred. Maggie is the exact same. We do pass on AKC papers with clear registrations in the hopes the adopters with get CGCs on their rescued dogs. Backyard bred dogs should never be bred."

That answer about why the rescue wants papers is bogus.

First of all, ANY dog, even a mixed breed, can get a CGC title. AKC papers are not required for your CGC.

Also, AKC will not transfer papers for a rescue. 

Based on the other odd statements by GSDLovers, aka Rae, I tend to think she is probably not telling the entire truth about why she wanted the papers.

Can someone explain why a rescue would adopt out a sick dog or an un-altered dog? I thought a good rescue organization was supposed to keep the dog until it is back to health and altered. Sounds like a few dogs adopted out by this particular organization where still sick and un-altered when adopted out? I do not understand this. The rescues I have known in the past would never adopt a dog out until it was back in good health and had been altered. Then again, maybe things are different now. I really am curious, is this a common practice among rescues these days?

Ramage ,

the cgc thing was bogus ecuse your right.

I agree with you  and that is mostly standard practice. but there is always a but.

working with rescues i have seen exceptions on un-altered or sick dogs being adopted in certain circumstances.

a volunteer is adopting. a very eager person that knows the facts and is continueing treatment/ with added segments of contract and deadline to spay/neuter. puppies needing to be cut after 6 months or on vet rtecommendation  foster to adopt scenarios. So its not unheard of.

but standard practice is healthy spayed/neutered.

I, for one, do not know the whole story. But I do know, from personal experience, that the source providing the information is not trustworthy and unreliable, at best.  Knowing that, I doubt the full truth of this situation will ever to be known.

Regarding your question, it would seem to me that the organization has already stated that their records are an open book.  If you are genuinely concerned, I am sure they won't mind you volunteering your time at their center in order to review their adoption practices. 

I've rescued a dog from the pound who was sick (sever kennel cough) (emaciated) to the point he could hardly stand. His days were up and he was due to be put down. I sprung him on his last day, had to fight to get what meds they already had for his kennel cough and was given a grace period to have him neutered. He was far too sick to go under at the time I adopted him from the county and they suggested the delay. I was given a time limit to have the proof of his neuter mailed in or I would be fined. He finished his meds, put a few pounds on and went for daily walks to build his muscle back up and then he was neutered. End of story. It happens even at city/county shelters.

 Ramage got it right, ANY dog, purebred or mutt, can get a CGC so that reason is Bogus! There is absolutely no reason AT ALL for a rescue to seek out AKC papers on a relinquished dog! Plus the fact this dog could never get her CGC with the serious issues that she has!
 

Melody,
Texas Hills GSD

Thank you Yoshy. That does make sense. I had not thought of it in that way.

TStrickland - unfortunately, I have too many responsibilities to drive over 2.5 hours away one way (5 hours round trip) to volunteer at this rescue. However, I have heard about them and will leave it at that. Whether Beth is trustworthy or not doesn't concern me. What concerns me is the odd and rambling post by GSDlover with wierd excuses as to asking for AKC papers and the comment about rescues and breeding.

I will admit that adopting out a sick dpg does not appear to be a problem. Now that Yoshy explained it to me, I can understand where rules might be bent for fosters or volunteers.