Having "trouble" finding a dog - Page 5

To Escobar: it is possible that the good breeders don't want to sell a pup to you because they might feel that you won't give the pup a good home because you are looking for the perfect dog of which there isn't any. There are tons of good GSDs out there, but fewer good GSD owners.

You say you've been rsearching on the Internet for years. Well, I have a suggestion. Buy a plane ticket and start visiting breeders in person. Especially if you go to Europe, the distances are close enough that you can visit 2 or 3 breeders in one day. In a week's trip, you can go and see ten or more breeders even if you just limit yourself to those that speak English. Those breeders will have pups that are good enough for you, question is, are you good enough for their pups?

It's true my research isn't the best.

It's not easy starting out all by yourself.

Nobody on my island is breeding dogs like the one's I want so ...


But I was looking at Kirchental for a long time and really liking their meanings, but I simply do not like their dogs .

I hope you can all be patient with me whilst I learn.

I can hear the good the band and the oh ugly !

Lay it on me.

But again again there is no such thing as a perfect dog.
I'm not looking for a breeding dog, only an awsome companion, the rest will just have to see .

Maybe you are getting advise on a web sight that are mostly american, I wish I had out of the country sights for you but I only buy  what I can see ,as you should. It looks like you what a grown dog titled working line blk/red or blk , but Im not sure by what your asking that you can handle a dog that size or that trained , as I have read your inquire several times and  your wants dont balance with what you can handle in the woods and if you get a pup ,have you done the research to train one as what you what has been done by excperienced breeders , at a high price .  Since you are willing to wait a long time then I would work on bloodlines but more to the point a  trained adult dog would cost  3-4 thousand after it was done producing. So if you want a 10 to 13 year life with a nice pup go  with blood lines, nice parents and hope for the best , after that it is Your fault as with all owners.

Maybe I am missing something, but it sounds to me like Escobar is an extremely active, outdoors type, who is looking for a dog to accompany him in these activities and to also maybe do IPO/schutzhund with down the road.  It is not necessary to have previously trained in IPO to handle a well bred working line dog.  It does take a serious commitment.  I see nothing wrong with what you are doing, Escobar, I think it is very wise to take your time, you will find the right pup.  Providing you understand what it is you are getting into as far as daily exercise, I see no reason why you would not make a good owner for  a medium to high drive working line GSD.   As far as visiting kennels, that would be great if you could, but if I only bought puppies from breeders that i could only go see in person I never would have had my Tiekerhook dog or the dog I have now, and that would have been very much  my loss.

Actually it is my understanding breeders in Sweeden and Denmark are well known  for breeding extremely healthy, good working line GSDs.

I'm not arguing the fact that I might not be the best person to own a high working dog, but I will learn and I have a good team of dog trainers and people doing obidience, and tracking in my hometown.

I know that I will make a few mistakes a long the way but the fact that I know that puts me in good position.

I have lots of time to learn, the breeders that I like the most are expecting their litters in late summer '10.

I'm sceptic myself and can well handle the critisms that you can throw at me.

I am however looking for a dog to compete with and train on an daily basis.

My lab is utterly useless in any odidience ! :)

I still have to figure out wheter I want the dog to be titled before I export him, that's something I have to discuss with the breeder.

When you are exporting a dog to a country that has quarintine the cost is so insane that you have no room for errors that's why I want to have high standards.

Also a factor is getting an older dog that has had his hips and elbows xray'd and I know for sure that he can work and is typical for the breed.

The risk of importing a dog (puppy) that is might not be healthy and flawed in any way is just too great and too expensive.

Oh lord, sorry for the spelling errors people

LOL Escobar, I like how you worded that :o)

Hey guys thank you all for your help, support and critisms.


I think I might have found my breeder although I have narrowed it down to 2 breeders.

I could not have done it without you guys, so thanks a lot .

If you want to send me a private email with exact size specifications from head, withers, back, angulation, canine size, and thruster ratio (back leg angle to other specifications).  I can find you the exact dog you want including a title that you can get certififed (i.e. title the dog at your own club or organization).  I hope your serious and have a deep wallet.  I am picky too and have two dogs that are on each end of the range.  I have a tall black (not all black), large bone, huge head, and powerful male GSD.  I also have the traditional black and tan female with the black face mask.  She is short, quick, and fast.  There are advantages to both dogs.  The larger head makes the male dogs bite targeting precise and he is a clear arrestor when biting.  The female is quick but her short head makes bite targeting a little more difficult.  She is a traditional prosecutor. 

You want the best DNA, a highly trained GSD, 2 years old, and perfect specifications then email me and be willing to put up some cash.  The breeder is located in Germany.