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by Prager on 18 December 2012 - 16:12
So you bred two titled dog and kept few pups back because you could not sell them. AHA! That would make you C . Thank you for the hint.
by Aadilah07 on 18 December 2012 - 16:12
I hear you Gustav...
What Molly said makes soooo much sense...might not be gospel...
What Molly said makes soooo much sense...might not be gospel...

by Gusmanda on 18 December 2012 - 16:12
Gusmanda - are you gonna keep posting the same thing over and over....
Well, that depends ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION? You still have not shown a dog or kennel name. Molly did not say you where a good breeder either. Well, neither Molly nor anyone else actually.
so which one are you? a) some dude who has never bred but enjoys telling breeders how to breed, or b) a failed breeder who resents others who have fared better, or c) a breeder who is unable to sell what he breeds and feels creating negative publicity to others might divert customers in his direction? When will you share your kennel/breeding information and prove folks wrong?
ARE YOU SO ASHAMED OF WHAT YOU BREED, TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE SCARED YELLOW OF SHOWING WHAT A GOOD BREEDER YOU ARE? If you bred anything decent you would show it, but of course, you don't breed anything decent, if at all, so you cannot show.
Well, that depends ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION? You still have not shown a dog or kennel name. Molly did not say you where a good breeder either. Well, neither Molly nor anyone else actually.
so which one are you? a) some dude who has never bred but enjoys telling breeders how to breed, or b) a failed breeder who resents others who have fared better, or c) a breeder who is unable to sell what he breeds and feels creating negative publicity to others might divert customers in his direction? When will you share your kennel/breeding information and prove folks wrong?
ARE YOU SO ASHAMED OF WHAT YOU BREED, TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE SCARED YELLOW OF SHOWING WHAT A GOOD BREEDER YOU ARE? If you bred anything decent you would show it, but of course, you don't breed anything decent, if at all, so you cannot show.
by Aadilah07 on 18 December 2012 - 17:12
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by Gustav on 18 December 2012 - 17:12
Yes what Molly says makes good sense, not disputing that....but here is my point. In good ole USA hips are certified at 2years, in Canada, 18 months, in Germany, I year, ...now I know many dogmatic people in the US that think that only 2 years is reputable to certify hips. Does that make the Canadians and Germans less than reputable??? Should the Germans be looked at as less than ethical because they don't subscribe to the dogmatic USA breeder, no matter how well intentioned that breeder is. Is the US breeder the only right answer???
by joanro on 18 December 2012 - 17:12
She's counterfeit, Gusmanda. She cannot answer your question because she hasn't found an answer ready made in the PDB archives.. lol.

by rtdmmcintyre on 18 December 2012 - 17:12
I do not know Hans but would look forward to meeting him. Regardless on if I agree with every post a person says I can respect someone who has strong opinions even though they may differ from my own. Hans stands behind what he breeds. There are several on this board who don't get along, that is fine, truthfully not my problem. I decide for myself whom I will respect and whom I will get along with. A person is foolish if they base everything off a message board. We all say things on these boards that we may have worded differently if in person. It is too easy to have miscommunication over a board. No facial expressions, no tone of voice. and before a person has a chance to explain what they meant 30 people have judged them. Taking nothing else into consideration. People from around this world post on this board. Language and culture are always in play. I just wish people would think a little before jumping to conclusions about others. Why nail a door closed before it is ever opened to see what is on the other side?
Brad Paisley
or 1whowalkswith(3)dogs
Reggie
Brad Paisley
or 1whowalkswith(3)dogs
Reggie

by Hundmutter on 18 December 2012 - 18:12
Very well said, "Brad" !!!

by mrdarcy on 18 December 2012 - 18:12
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by Ibrahim on 18 December 2012 - 19:12
Hello,
For me to learn, I hear hips are genetic, environmental .... sometimes. Was there a scientific 100% proof it is genetic?
Isn't there any doubt it could be due to the way a dog lives, type of food, severe training, accident etc etc, why is everybody so sure it is genetic?
If it is genetic and or environmental, how could you decide a specific dog who has bad hips is due to either one?
Recently a member here mentioned his dogs who live as naturally as they should and eat natural, have no diseases, live long, need less care etc and do not suffer faults, disease etc like other dogs. So isn't it possible we are part in causing this hip thing to our dogs?
Isn't it possible that while the puppy is being born, something might pressure joints which causes dysplasia later? Isn't is possible if mother carries the pup in her mouth, drops it etc that could cause dysplasia?
One more question, if a breeder breeds 90% good hips, is he/she ethically responsible for the bad 10% when the parents involved are OFAed?
For me to learn, I hear hips are genetic, environmental .... sometimes. Was there a scientific 100% proof it is genetic?
Isn't there any doubt it could be due to the way a dog lives, type of food, severe training, accident etc etc, why is everybody so sure it is genetic?
If it is genetic and or environmental, how could you decide a specific dog who has bad hips is due to either one?
Recently a member here mentioned his dogs who live as naturally as they should and eat natural, have no diseases, live long, need less care etc and do not suffer faults, disease etc like other dogs. So isn't it possible we are part in causing this hip thing to our dogs?
Isn't it possible that while the puppy is being born, something might pressure joints which causes dysplasia later? Isn't is possible if mother carries the pup in her mouth, drops it etc that could cause dysplasia?
One more question, if a breeder breeds 90% good hips, is he/she ethically responsible for the bad 10% when the parents involved are OFAed?
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