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Daryl,
Is there a video you can show us of your dog with "extreme drive"?
I am guessing you are talking about your dog Hutch? (Maybe I am wrong)
He is a nice breeding on paper, but, I know a lot of people (and train with them) that have dogs that are linebred on Yoschy. We don't consider them "extreme". We just call them dogs.
"Extreme drive" is a nice term used by breeders to sell puppies.

Oh, you may want to proofread your web site before you call out others on things like punctuation or grammar. I hope that you do realize that "workingline" is not a word. Some of your sentences need a little work also. They don't make sense.

thanks shepherdpal - yes if you get the right dog, with the right breeding, from the right breeder, your dog should be able to do everything you mentioned, very well!

Daryl - you mention doing one thing 25X being not so impressive.  Ok, but you fail to consider doing that one thing (Schh3) under 25 different judges, on 25 different fields, in 25 different trials, with 50 different trial helpers - and 19 of these (Schh3 titles) being National and Regional level), and one of these (Schh3 titles) qualifying us (myself and that one dog) for a WORLD team!  And also fails to consider that this was only ONE of the SEVERAL dogs that I have titled - how about  FIVE dogs from ZERO to Schh3 titled (and National level with all of them) - and two others to Schh1 titled - all but two of these from my own breeding program, and all but two of these raised by myself from puppy?   eh?  Oh and that doesn't include the AKC obedience and tracking titles, the MANY FH and FH2 titles (on multiple dogs) including several National FH Championships, and even a National FH Champion title!    Which is where all the points accumulated - not just from one insignificant and boring 25X Schh3 dog - that I EARNED the bronze, silver, gold and MASTERS GOLD sports medals from UScA.   Oh yeah and then the little bitty insignificant narcotics and cadaver detection certifications that I earned on two different dogs from my breeding.

Ah, but enough about me - what about you?  Anything at all under your belt that would convince anyone that you know what you are talking about from experience and not "armchair expert"?  NO????   I thought not......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbbG_IPEEHY

I would not even bother with a litter that looked like that. They look wormy with their swollen bellies, and I would have to walk away. 

I do not care whose litter that was, this isn't even an attack on molly. Not a good example of what I would like to see.

OGBS, if you agree that "extreme drive" means hectic and hyper, unsuitable to be within the home, unsafe around children and small animals, then NO, he's "just a dog".  Please post your "just a dog" so that we can compare.  It's so nice you had time to study my website for spelling and grammar, although I assure you that my use of "workingline" is purely intentional.

Spinning again Daryl - spinning for drama's sake.  I did not say extreme drives = hectic and hyper.  But keep on spinning Daryl - that is a sign of poor nerve strength too that should be avoided.
Did you say what you have done with any dog from your breeding program - or any dog at all, to make anything you say believable?  And, really would love to see a video of your "extreme drive" dog too.  Let's see it!  Can't wait. 

Jeff, the litter had just eaten - no worms.  But, whatever you say, from all of your experience LOL

molly

Wormy or just fed, they looked like pets to me. Not anything I would want to see. Especially the one puppy walking after the rag. No thanks.

I did not say extreme drives = hectic and hyper.

Um....YES....you DID.  That's the subject of this whole paragraph, and it appears to me that's exactly what you've equated it with, with or without punctuation.  What do you think we've been debating for the last page?  At least you're not denying the "danger to children and small animals" part.

I don't breed for extreme drives, and have never claimed to. I like enough drive to be trainable for any sport or working venue, no extremes, hectic or hyper - because I like dogs that can work and do as well as the handler wants him to, then come home and be a family dog too (same dog). That's what I like, and so that's what I breed for. Normal to high drives, plenty to train as far as the handler wants to go - the dog is capable of going to that level. AND great family dogs. No extremes in either direction.

No Daryl, I didn't.  Hectic, hyper OR extreme - again, you are spinning what I write into what you want to hear, I guess.

Jeff, the puppies in the start of that video are only 6 weeks old.  The officers and trainers who were there for the "testing" were pretty impressed, as was I, with their slow-motion attempts LOL - the same puppies are on the same video less than a week later - and on the second video, same puppies a week after that.  You know, when the officers came back to test them again at 8 weeks?  Because, 6 weeks is too young to assess anything but cuteness?  You know that, right????  Maybe you don't, so now you do know.  6 weeks is too young to test anything but cuteness - and these puppies did far more than 6 week old puppies should have - surprise!  pretty impressive puppies to do what they did at that age.

Nice puppies, according to everyone but you.  So that's ok with me since I couldn't care less what you think of them.  And, they were all (but one) sold into working homes where their owners are thrilled with them so far - kept one for myself, thrilled so far with her.  Pathetic Jeff and Daryl who have nothing to offer except badmouthing and spinning, to any thread.  Go out and do something with your dogs, gentlemen - maybe you will learn something from experience that you can talk about.

Jeff, do you think your Esko has high drives?  Or even medium drives?  I haven't seen a video yet that convinces me he's more than a pet.  Do you think he is?  It's one thing to see 6 week old puppies who just ate a big meal, stumbling after a tug that they can't even see clearly yet - and an adult dog that is practically walking after the ball in training (and training a guarding exercise for a ball) - Pathetic.  Appears he has enough drive to be trainable, so that's a good thing.   But at least you show the videos - what about your dog Daryl?  Let's see your extreme-drive dog.  Even bigmouth Jeff doesn't claim his medium-drive dog has extreme drives. 

molly

Yes, and where does Vito come from, The great TOM of course
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