Inside vs outside dog - Page 4

One day Max's breed will no longer be, you will only see a shadow of what once was.
 

 Moons, I can't honestly say I don't like you, frankly I don't understand you most of the time. You are an enigma and I think you want it that way.

I've told you this before - there have been times when you have posted something that is so profound that it is mind boggling. And then you say something else..........................

None the less, have good one.

LOL........
it's complicated, but I like you too.

Indeed.

Wish I could just pee on it and walk away........
Stress I mean.........lol

Well, unlike a lot of people on this forum, I have only owned a dog for a few months now. We keep our puppy indoors because in the area we live (Suffolk, England) there is a higher percentage of lungworm here. Lungworm is a very serious condition caused by a parasite (or bacteria, I can't remember which) that is carried by slugs and snails. The slugs and snails usually come out at night when it is cooler and more moist (I actually once saw a snail about the size of my hand just a few blocks from my house ). There has been some research that indicates that even the slime trials left by both of those creatures can pass lungworm to a dog. So there's no way I'd let her sleep outside all night (unlike my neighbors who never have their dogs inside at all >_<).

Some more food for thought, I have read that allowing your dog to sleep in your bedroom (but not on the bed with you) can be quite therapeutic and calming for the dog. Apparently (according to what I've read on the subject), dogs that sleep in the same room as their owners generally are calmer, have less stress and anxiety, and are more likely to have a stronger bond. Oh, but I guess one cautionary thing about that though is that your dog would have to have some pretty good obedience. It should know to not get up on the bed, ever, unless it is invited to do so; as soon as you tell it to get off the bed, it should immediately do so, or lose all bed privileges; if it were to become possessive of you, your bed, any space then it should be trained more intensely; it should know the command for going to it's own bed when it's time for sleep; etc.

Dog hair in your food is just nasty, end of story for me.

LOL.....
dog hair in your food........

In this house we've had fawns, lambs, turtles frogs and snakes, guinea pigs, chicks and turkey poults, peafowl, dogs, puppies, and cats, and one Cockatiel.
Hair was the least of my problems.





 

I don't know what your going on about having to do with guns???
 

HA, HA, Two Moons has NEVER heard of a "GUN DOG" before and then we're suppose to believe this person knows anything about "snake proofing"

I think the observations made by my vet are relevant to the discussion and should be taken under consideration by anyone who owns a dog.  Plus, anyone who has ANY CLUE about what Human Epidemiology is OR Veterinary Epizootiology OR simply any BASIC education in science, should quickly see that these observations are not just some hack on his porch "spinning a yarn" to "pass the time", this is a medical professional pointing out measurable phenomena.  However, the reality here is the people arguing such is false, likely didn't even know there were such things as Epidemiology and Epizootiology.

Sure he hasn't sat down and made a questionnaire for his patients to fill out, so people like Two Moons can have a specific answer, but the ability to do so in a scientific manner DEFINITELY exists.  This could easily be whipped up into a "white paper" with a couple of days of research on his client billing data.  These observations made by my Vet are real and I believe have merit worth looking into:

1) Dogs that live inside tend to get heartworm less often than dogs that live 100% outside, this includes other flea and tick transmitted diseases.  

2) Dogs that live inside tend to get medical attention for injuries or sudden onsets of illness MUCH earlier than dogs that live 100% outside.  As was said earlier, my vet mentioned BLOAT specifically as an example. He said the dogs that come in too late and have the lowest possibility of recovery are ALWAYS outdoor only dogs.

3) Dogs that have bites from, or scrapes with wildlife are not usually dogs being taken on hikes, but instead are usually dogs that have lived 100% outside.  His list would include snakes, bees, rats, coyotes, etc, he's seen all kinds of crazy wildlife bites during his career.

4) The most broken down and "old looking" dogs he sees are 100% outdoor dogs.  The oldest and healthiest dogs he typically sees are indoor dogs that get lots of exercise.  Just because a dog lives a long time doesn't mean its healthy or fit to do anything beyond lay under a tree.

5) The most socially stupid dogs he's sees are 100% outdoor dogs.

I don't see how anyone can argue with the above items.  The only items that could be considered "opinions" are #4 & #5 and even then #4 & #5 are based on observation skills acquired through medical training.

Just today I learned of another GSD that bloated and was saved by the quick action of his owner. He is a housedog. There may be a million and one valid reasons for people not wanting their dogs inside with them...dog hair, smells, whatever. Reasons I don't understand or subscribe to (my ex did and that's why he's my ex).However, I can understand and maybe even relate to some of those reasons other than just not wanting a dirty animal in the house. However, it's a no brainer that outside dogs are not better off than house dogs when it comes down to Momo's #2 above. To think otherwise  defies common sense and logic.

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