Growling behaviour... - Page 4

Steve:

You are right, at the moment I wrote that, I was one confused person.
I meant to say beetree for the E collar statement, and you for the Raw feeding. I saw what you had posted previously re: raw diets, and I would have to disagree with you there. Anyway, another topic for another day.
Sorry about that!

@Chaz

"I think you lack common sense when it comes to dogs. Otherwise, you would have posted 4 months ago or stopped it yourself, 4 months ago." Nice to see your arrogance! The question was asked in the past with some answers.. wich I tried yet it didnt work... Thats why I stated that I was back with the same topic ... Perhaps I do not have common sense when it comes to dogs (I do try my best for my dogs though, otherwise I would not be here) but I do have more care with what I write than you!

Swifteagle, as you have mentioned you have asked for advice previously and still have issues.
Many people give lots of advice, many different styles, many different experiences. I think what you need is a private trainer or someone knowledgable from your local club coming over to your house and obeserve you and your dog at feeding time. Together you could figure out a good plan that works for you and your pup.
If you are not in a club, I can recommend trainers from the IACP (http://canineprofessionals.com), there are some very knowledgable people out there, hopefully one in your area.

All the best!

If you feed kibble go back to feeding from your hand . Sit, kibble, down kibble, stand kibble etc.  Get the bowl out of the situation for a while.  If you feed raw....  like others have suggested put him in a down, food goes on the floor walk away ( he is still in down.)  come back touch the bowl, add stuff.  Sit at the table have half a coffee. let him eat.  Dont even think about messing with his bowl  you have just really messed with his head at this point.   Make it a non-issue  Right now he is thinking sit ..... get bowl...protect bowl.  change it to down ...bowl on floor ...um why is bowl on floor and i'm still in a damn down...um now  er where in heavens name are you going....what ??now your sitting down having a coffee and I'm STILLLLLLL in a down.  When you release him from the down walk out of the room and let him eat in peace.  at this point his brain is fried and he is not quite sure what just happened.  If he breaks that down boy o boy is he ever in trouble!!!!  back to the original spot repeat until he knows beyond any doubt that you are alpha.  Get the bowl issue out of his head and change this behavior.  If it was an adult male rottie i would use a much different solution but this is a puppy. My training philosophy is : Start with the least confrontation in a situation so you have somewhere to go, start with the hardest correction and there is no where to go...

@Tingiesand

I am in a club with very good trainers... Actually the head trainer at my club develops pups for the police and also trains police dogs...He has also competed in schutzhund worlds..

Many people here in this forum and in my club are of the school of thought of why bother your dog when he/she is eating... 

That just proves my point. Past remedies on here didn't work, so we'll come back for more. You need to find a professional. And if you want arrogance, why don't you buy me a plane ticket? I'll come out there for one hour. I'll spend 5 minutes with the dog and the rest on you.

Swifteagle, I have owned a handful of dogs. Is this your first puppy? "Why bother" is a cop out and might turn out to be dangerous. As soon as he learns (oh and believe me by this time he is almost there) that he can keep you away and get his own way by growling you are opening up yourself to a bunch of problems. You need to establish dominance. Your dog, your problem. We are just here to help. Take it or leave it. Or just screw the whole matter (this is what you seem to be leaning towards, unfortunately).

Oh Mylanta!

I don't have time to go over this point by point, but this is ridiculous!

He is not a "baby." He was never a "baby." He is a DOG, and hell no, his dam would not tolerate this, and if you don't like it, then neither should you.  

If some of what's been suggested seems harsh to many of you, I sure as hell won't be posting what I'd do w/this pup. I will say one thing: I have a dog who produces serious food aggression in almost all of l their pups. I mean, serious. Not growling, not bluffing and acting nasty, but will maul you if you come close, and maul you like they mean it. Sounds like a problem, eh? Well, I don't have any food aggressive dogs. Do the math. 

Swifteagle, I'm not picking at one instance, it is everything you have done over a period of time to create a distrusting dog at mealtimes. Nothing dramatic about it, except it is a recurring episode. You will pick the answers you like, not the one's you might actually need. Again, I only wish you and your pup the best.

Jenni, I don't think SwiftEagle has the discretion to use your methods, he is lacking a basic understanding. I don't think he would have the same success as you. I'm thinking of his awareness and capabilities, of which at this time I am not overly impressed. Not meant to rag you SwiftEagle but that's how I see it. He would benefit from a real time interview with a professional assessment. Unfortunately if one is asking for training via the internet that is usually the last bit of advice they want to hear.