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Tantra

by Tantra on 12 October 2010 - 20:10

Was that limited registration puppy sold at the same price as his/her brother and sister with full registration?  The answer is most likely yes. 

I agree with an earlier poster dogs without or limited reg. or spayed/neutered are more likely to end up in shelters.  The dog is seen as not the same value as the full reg intact dog.  But was sold at the same price.

If you dont want the pup bred dont sell it.  I for one will never buy a pup with limited reg and i dont care who the breeder is.

by Bob McKown on 12 October 2010 - 20:10

No the rest of the pups were sold with limited regs also.
I guess it just depends on the quality of your breeder and the trust level you have with them.

by crhuerta on 12 October 2010 - 21:10

The answer to this debate is plain & simple..."don't buy from a breeder unless you agree to their specific terms or conditions".
The original topic is: Buyer changes limited reg to full......bottom line...buyer is in the wrong for doing so.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 12 October 2010 - 21:10

 Bob, I don't think Tantra was addressing you. I think that post was referring to the OP.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

 Quote:  I haven't had trouble finding a dog sold with full registration despite some breeders who sell limited insisting that good/reputable breeders only sell limited.

That would knock out almost all of EU. I have never had anyone sell me a dog with limited registration.

I hear that only good breeders sell limited, Spay and neuter your dogs as it will keep the shelters from being over run, you cannot train a dog before 6 months, if you have a bitch, if you breed her one time she will be a better dog, and just all kinds of bullshit. I have seen puppy contracts that are 6 pages long.

It is just too much. You want to sell puppies charge a bunch and leave it up to the indivual. The more fuss you make of it, the more likely it is to stick in their head, most people produce one or two pups that can work out of a litter ad the rest are pets. All this control is just goofy.

If you really want to better the breed, then create a coalition and have a group decision made if your dog should be bred. You make it like 90% and you get to breed the dog. I am just goofing, but at least at that point by secret ballot people will let you know if they think the dog is even worth bothering with. THEN, because of the coalition you can charge retarded prices and someone will buy into the whole thing, including the coalition, as it is on one of the 6 pages of puppy contract. : )

DebiSue

by DebiSue on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

I think what it all boils down to is you can't trust anybody and you just have to do what you feel is right.  I don't know which you would consider worse, a limited reg option from a breeder or a breeder that swears that the dog is breedworthy because she/he doesn't breed anything but the best...in their eye if you follow me.  Honesty is the best policy but so hard to find anymore.  Everyone is out for themselves and of course the dog is the one that suffers.

by desert dog on 13 October 2010 - 23:10

I guess I'm to old to understand first of all why a person would even consider buying a dog with a limited registration. He either is or not. There are some people selling dogs with limited registration , upon dog
being titled, full registration will be issued. Any time someone controls something you pay for, you don't
own it. If people will stop buying dogs with these limitted registrations, these superior breeders will end
up having to keep them and cull them the way all the good breeders have done for hundreds of years. not
make money on something they don't think is any good. It's called tough love, I agree with Jeff 100%. If I have
a dog that isn't good enough to fully register than I screwed up. It was my fault!!


starrchar

by starrchar on 14 October 2010 - 00:10

Ketcat, Sadly there are dishonest people everywhere. Sorry you have to deal with this.  I am not a breeder, but I have a great deal of respect for breeders who give limited registration on their puppies.  There is a purpose for it and a well founded one. Many here complain about people that breed dogs that aren't breed worthy, breed without health checks and/or without titles etc. and selling pups with limited registration helps to control this problem somewhat. I would personally like to see every breeder do this.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 14 October 2010 - 05:10

 Quote:  There is a purpose for it and a well founded one.

Like what ? Ever look in the paper ? People are breeding dogs and selling them without papers all the time. The price is not all that bad either. 

Ever heard of paper hanging on a dog ? They will do that as well. It is just some breeders have litters that no one really wanted and have to sell the pups to people that they do not know.

Why have a litter of puppies when you will have to sell all of them to strangers ? Bottom line is money.

I found some pet GSD website one time as I was wandering the internet. Most of the pups did not come from papered parents, yet they were asking 1200 for the pups. They had the little cute description and pictures and had them in little show stances. Still think that limited registration means anything ? Always a way around everything.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 October 2010 - 13:10

 Limited reg. is a way for a breeder to have their cake and eat it too. It's a slap in the face to the buyer. It says "it's ok for me to breed this mediocre dog, but not for you to do the same w/it's offspring." That way, the breeder gets the money, and they don't have to worry quite as much about their kennel reputation since they control all the registration. It practically ensures puppies go to primarily pet homes, as most serious working dog people would laugh at a breeder who  tried to restrict what they do with a dog they purchased. I have seen enough to know that I would not agree w/99% of what most breeders called "breedworthy" and their criteria for deciding this. So, I would never buy a dog on limited reg. unless it was a pet w/a flaw. I bought a sleeve Pekingese once on limited registration. Too small to breed. 

You want to control everything? Start leasing puppies then. No, don't really do that. I wasn't serious. 





 


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