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by 1doggie2 on 30 March 2010 - 03:03
I think in the future anyone who comes on the property, you should make a big deal about taking the plates down on the cars. Then they can not give you bs address. This also may get them to think twice about snatching one. I would also ask for drivers License to see it and copy information before I brought any one out. If they do not like it, to flippen bad. If they are on the up and up they will give it to you and be glad your careful.
What nut case takes a pup to young to leave the Mother! I feel for you and so sorry you have to learn this the hard way.
What nut case takes a pup to young to leave the Mother! I feel for you and so sorry you have to learn this the hard way.

by Slamdunc on 30 March 2010 - 04:03
Mirasmom,
First I'm very sorry that this happened to you and your pup. I am confused and perhaps I missed something. I haven't read all of the posts on this thread. How much would you ave been selling this pup for? In my jurisdiction it is a grand larceny and a felony to steal any item over $200. I'm sure Massachusetts is similar. Why wouldn't you contact the police? I'm sure you are not the only person that this has happened by these lowlifes. I wouldn't wait any longer and contact the police right away. I would strongly advise against contacting these suspects and saying "you are going to the police if you don't get the pup back." Don't forewarn them; just go to the police and take out charges.
The person that took my pup, thinks he's"Above the Law" if you know what I mean.
I'm not afraid of him, I just don't want him getting rid of evidence, and that would be disposing of the little guy.
I don't know what you mean by above the law, is the ass hole a judge, lawyer, mobster, doctor or cop? No one is above the law in these situations. If they think they are they need a rude awakening in a jail cell.
JMO,
Jim
First I'm very sorry that this happened to you and your pup. I am confused and perhaps I missed something. I haven't read all of the posts on this thread. How much would you ave been selling this pup for? In my jurisdiction it is a grand larceny and a felony to steal any item over $200. I'm sure Massachusetts is similar. Why wouldn't you contact the police? I'm sure you are not the only person that this has happened by these lowlifes. I wouldn't wait any longer and contact the police right away. I would strongly advise against contacting these suspects and saying "you are going to the police if you don't get the pup back." Don't forewarn them; just go to the police and take out charges.
The person that took my pup, thinks he's"Above the Law" if you know what I mean.
I'm not afraid of him, I just don't want him getting rid of evidence, and that would be disposing of the little guy.
I don't know what you mean by above the law, is the ass hole a judge, lawyer, mobster, doctor or cop? No one is above the law in these situations. If they think they are they need a rude awakening in a jail cell.
JMO,
Jim

by Slamdunc on 30 March 2010 - 04:03
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by malshep on 30 March 2010 - 11:03
I am so sorry you are going thru this, take a friend and go to their house while they are away and see if you can see the pups.
Better yet have a friend watch the place to see when they potty the pups.
Always,
Cee
Better yet have a friend watch the place to see when they potty the pups.
Always,
Cee

by mollyandjack on 30 March 2010 - 13:03
Mirasmom, I assure you that if you report this to the police, they WILL take you seriously. My fiance is law enforcement and they take it very, very seriously when another cop breaks the law. And if they do blow you off when you report it, ask to speak to their higher-up because you are making a complaint against an officer and it IS VERY SERIOUS (if the person you think stole is an officer, I'm still not clear about that).

by RLHAR on 30 March 2010 - 13:03
Rugers,
I know it's not usual but I have heard of it happening. Also she mentioned that she had just wormed the puppies, maybe the puppy had a bad reaction to the wormer and something tragically went wrong.
Also, I had a thought and again not meaning to point fingers but Mirasmom would the bitch have been fretful if one of her puppies was taken? Did you notice her being uneasy, restless about the missing puppy or more guarded about the remaining litter?
I know it's not usual but I have heard of it happening. Also she mentioned that she had just wormed the puppies, maybe the puppy had a bad reaction to the wormer and something tragically went wrong.
Also, I had a thought and again not meaning to point fingers but Mirasmom would the bitch have been fretful if one of her puppies was taken? Did you notice her being uneasy, restless about the missing puppy or more guarded about the remaining litter?

by kitkat3478 on 30 March 2010 - 15:03
I would definately report the pup stolen.If looking back, you recall them fumbling in the car, MORE likely than NOT, they GOT your pup.
If the police question them and they deny it (which will more likely be the case), at least you have an incident report. You just tell the people the police asked who was there, and you stated they were. NOT that you were pointing the finger at them. This way, id down the road you see them with the pup, you can go to civil court, which is what will most likely be what you are told to do, you have the theft report on your side, along with your dogs DNA.
They will NOT have a bill of sale for their dog. Evidence needed in civil court is alot less demanding than in criminal court.
Than I would be a frequent visitor to their house to check up on the pup they bought.Warm weather is coming so chances are good you will catch them with both pups togeather.
I had a family here once to look at pups, and the entire family fell in love with my little yorkie/pom. I noticed a couple of the "older" kids hurry to the van and get in. when the rest of the family went to get in with their pup, I didn't see pooch, so I instantly started calling her.
No one said nothing, when she didn't come, I walked over to the van, looked under it, than asked if I could look inside, stating she likes to ride so she may have sneaked in.
Well, she didn't sneak in, she was sitting on one of the kids laps in the back seat.They were NOT saying nothing she was there, and they DID hear me calling her.
If the police question them and they deny it (which will more likely be the case), at least you have an incident report. You just tell the people the police asked who was there, and you stated they were. NOT that you were pointing the finger at them. This way, id down the road you see them with the pup, you can go to civil court, which is what will most likely be what you are told to do, you have the theft report on your side, along with your dogs DNA.
They will NOT have a bill of sale for their dog. Evidence needed in civil court is alot less demanding than in criminal court.
Than I would be a frequent visitor to their house to check up on the pup they bought.Warm weather is coming so chances are good you will catch them with both pups togeather.
I had a family here once to look at pups, and the entire family fell in love with my little yorkie/pom. I noticed a couple of the "older" kids hurry to the van and get in. when the rest of the family went to get in with their pup, I didn't see pooch, so I instantly started calling her.
No one said nothing, when she didn't come, I walked over to the van, looked under it, than asked if I could look inside, stating she likes to ride so she may have sneaked in.
Well, she didn't sneak in, she was sitting on one of the kids laps in the back seat.They were NOT saying nothing she was there, and they DID hear me calling her.

by ZIN on 30 March 2010 - 16:03
100% CALL THE POLICE .... They stole your property and I don't know the law if they can search the house but I would really hope they can. They have proof of purchasing a 3 month old puppy but they have no proof showing they own a 3 week old puppy. It's pretty black and white if the police make a house call and they have your 3 week old puppy. Otherwise I would be camping out waiting to see your puppy come outside and then I would go and get him but I really have to think if you get the police involved you will get your puppy back. good luck and hey it's not your fault there are assholes out there.
by VomMarischal on 30 March 2010 - 16:03
I'm curious about the OP's sales contract. Did you get full info, such as references? Did you do a home visit? You don't actually KNOW where the person works? I swear, I'd be on the phone to the person's department in a heartbeat. People like this are not popular in their workplace.
You won't see that puppy growing up in their yard, you know; they'll be selling it to recover whatever price they paid for the older puppy. Speaking of that older puppy, is it registered? Is the transfer of puppy ownership the only data you have on those people? Have you contacted AKC? Do you have DNA records of both parents? And tell the AKC about the missing pup while you're at it. Keep your eye on sites like kijiji or whatever it's called.
You won't see that puppy growing up in their yard, you know; they'll be selling it to recover whatever price they paid for the older puppy. Speaking of that older puppy, is it registered? Is the transfer of puppy ownership the only data you have on those people? Have you contacted AKC? Do you have DNA records of both parents? And tell the AKC about the missing pup while you're at it. Keep your eye on sites like kijiji or whatever it's called.

by ZIN on 30 March 2010 - 17:03
Very good advice... It's pretty hard to sell a 3-4 week puppy I would hope anyway so time to act is NOW...
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