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by stevef on 22 February 2010 - 10:02
If you want to watch good dogs moving correctly look for Mona v Haus Schrieber, Ch Quant v Kirschental, Ch Muscavas Rocky, Flint or Arnie. Ch Catja v Vornlante. Moving into the more modern era. Ingodds Agassi would be one to look at. Natalie vd Wienerau is another.
Steve Foran
Steve Foran
by bazza on 22 February 2010 - 12:02
Steve, Now your talking!!!! Quant.... one of my all time favourites, poetry in motion. JAW DROPPING to be precise.Nice to see you comment here, don't see you often enough!!!
by Joyce on 22 February 2010 - 13:02
Agree Steve, also Ch Gayvilles Xera one of if not the best in her day, her and Quant had some fantastic run offs.
by Sunsilver on 22 February 2010 - 14:02
Jemima, Preston's post was unclear. He was not saying he prefered to see a dog pace, which is, as you quite correctly stated, a major fault. It's the shorter back and loin he prefers to see. A long back, which a lot of the American show shepherds have, is weak. Some German dogs also have too long a back. Being familiar with Preston's posts, I know this is one of his pet peeves.
by Linda B on 22 February 2010 - 15:02
Photo of Korzwin Jilli taken by Lin Fardogart 2009
by beetree on 22 February 2010 - 15:02
Sunsilve, why is pacing a fault? Isn't that kind of like saying being left-handed is a fault? I mean it is a natural gait, some do it, some don't, so how can it be wrong? Just wondering, thanks.
by Linda B on 22 February 2010 - 15:02
For me one of the best movers of recent times is the sable who was V28 in 2007 Arex von Harbramer-wald
by Sunsilver on 22 February 2010 - 15:02
Oboy, you got me on that one! I can answer that for horses, but not for dogs! I just know it IS considered faulty, in ALL breeds of dogs. Some horses are natural pacers, as is the camel. If you've ever ridden a horse that paced, you will know the gait is EXTREMELY uncomfortable. You can't post to it the way you can to a trot, and if you try to sit to it, you get bounced from one side to the other in the saddle!
Anyone know the answer as to why it's considered faulty in dogs? My brain is telling me that it has something to do with extension, that the trot allows for a longer, freer stride than the pace, but I'm not sure.
Anyone know the answer as to why it's considered faulty in dogs? My brain is telling me that it has something to do with extension, that the trot allows for a longer, freer stride than the pace, but I'm not sure.
by AandA on 22 February 2010 - 15:02
Couldn't agree more with Linda and here's a link to an (admitedly not very good quality) video of Arex. Such effortless, almost casual, balance at such a speed.
If you just look at the dog he doesn't appear to be moving that quickly but then you notice the handler & then how far ahead of the rest he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=hi&v=vz-YCmSGoEQ&feature=related
AandA
If you just look at the dog he doesn't appear to be moving that quickly but then you notice the handler & then how far ahead of the rest he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=hi&v=vz-YCmSGoEQ&feature=related
AandA
by july9000 on 22 February 2010 - 16:02
The GSD in motion is best seen while WORKING! With no leash, free and natural...This is really how you can make the difference between balanced-fluide range of motion and lifting front-no rear and bad back that can happen when pulling on the leash..
Pacing is not a fault in itself...it is simply another form of gaiting (like in horses) but we don't want that in GSD and usually a dog that is more comfortable pacing has comformation faults..Don't forget a GSD has a single track motion..you can't really achieve that with pacing...
What we want is extension at both ends and a good follow throught...Call it Flying trot or not..it is just beautiful when it's happening LOL!!
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Pacing is not a fault in itself...it is simply another form of gaiting (like in horses) but we don't want that in GSD and usually a dog that is more comfortable pacing has comformation faults..Don't forget a GSD has a single track motion..you can't really achieve that with pacing...
What we want is extension at both ends and a good follow throught...Call it Flying trot or not..it is just beautiful when it's happening LOL!!
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