Ulf Kintzel and the HGH - Page 4

 That's pretty much what I tought it would be (HGH tending style) thanks for the info..
 
The dogs isn't suppose interact with the sheep either in border collies..only move them and the only interaction is if the sheep don't move..my instructor always tell me to keep the dog far away not to close..no interaction.  The dog is suppose to drive and fetch with a good distance from the sheep..this gives us the time to react and don't scare the flock.

That's too bad..but he's right..maybe in a couple of months this would change..how old is she??

She'll be 3 on Monday

Three is a good age to start herding and/or tending training.

Can you describe her prey drive? Does she enthusiastically chase after balls, Frisbees, toys? Does she like to play tug? Has she ever had the opportunity to chase a rabbit or a ground squirrel or other small critter? Do you have a phrase with which you can get her excited? In our house it's "Where's the kitty?"

When you're out on a walk and she's on a long line how does she act? Does she do that typical GSD zig-zag walk in front of you? Is she generally a curious dog?

Take a look at this Website: www.gsdcaherding.com/  There's an article by Diane Wright in the Articles link, titled Evaluating Instinct. The file is in .pdf format. You might find it interesting.

If you should have the opportunity to make a trip to Ulf's farm a weekend getaway, do! Ulf knows GSDs and would be able to stimulate your dog's instinct if it's there.

Can you describe her prey drive?
Thus far there isn't one.

Does she enthusiastically chase after balls, Frisbees, toys? Does she like to play tug?
No.

Has she ever had the opportunity to chase a rabbit or a ground squirrel or other small critter?
Yes, and she barely looks their way.

Do you have a phrase with which you can get her excited?
No.

When you're out on a walk and she's on a long line how does she act? Does she do that typical GSD zig-zag walk in front of you?
She either tries to gait, or she sniffs everything and pees on it.  She doesn't seem to be curious about much of anything.  Just wants to mark everywhere.

Tending dogs work almost entirely in prey drive. They are motivated by the fervent hope that a sheep will step across the border which is the dog's permission to grip the sheep. They don't charge into the flock and chase the sheep - which would also get them a bite - because they've been trained no to.

The herding instinct is evaluated by how and how much a green dog shows interest in a flock. Instinct tests are generally done with the sheep inside a fenced area and the dog is walked on a long line on the border along the outside the fence. You'll often see a green dog pounce at the flock, likely bark, to make the sheep move. When they do, the prey drive is further stimulated and the dog will run along the border (the fence) hoping to get more flock movement. The dog will keep his eyes on the sheep, show interest.

This is large flock tending, what Ulf and Geary do. The testing process is different with AKC style herding but the evaluation is basically the same: does the dog show interest or avoidance? Is there an inherent prey drive which can be stimulated?

Tending work may not be for Delphi.

are his dogs good for schutzhund i wonder

And here I was famous two months ago and I almost missed it …. Here are the answers to some questions that were raised:

Yes, I do take dogs into training that I board and train myself. I take one each year and it seems I am booked for 2010 and 2011. Feel free to inquire, though.

If you wish to train with me yourself you need to be within reasonable traveling distance in order to take regular lessons. I do currently have one opening.

As far as I know there are no other places than mine where the HGH training is offered on a flock more than 200 sheep big. HOWEVER, there are several places throughout the Northeast that do C-course. If you train on 50 or so sheep for course C and then take a few lessons with me it may get you the result of obtaining the title. There is now also an HGH club forming in NJ (it was mentioned a few times in these posts) that intends to have HGH trials starting in 2010.

No, prey drive and herding drive are not the same. They are related but are totally different. A herding dog is not driven by prey drive.

Rezkat is Kathy DiStaso, also on this forum. She trains currently with me. Her dog is Elexa vom Quasliner Moor.

Julie, I see you posted a video about the trial although we stated that taping is for private use only. How about giving the competitor credit: This is Kristin Siarkowicz with Lara vom Dolderbrunnen. She finished second with 81 points.

Yes, Ulf is excellent….oh, that wasn’t a question, that was a statement, never mind…..

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Ulf Kintzel
White Clover Sheep Farm
683 Bagley Road
Rushville, NY 14544
PH & FAX: (585) 554-3313
ulf@whitecloversheepfarm.com
www.whitecloversheepfarm.com
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PS: Yes, my dogs are good for SchH. Several of them obtained SchH 1,2,3 titles and breed surveys.

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Ulf Kintzel
White Clover Sheep Farm
683 Bagley Road
Rushville, NY 14544
PH & FAX: (585) 554-3313
ulf@whitecloversheepfarm.com
www.whitecloversheepfarm.com
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I don't remember how large his flock is, but I went to test with Geary Loff and he does HGH training and tends his flock with Beauceron.