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by hamza166 on 24 July 2009 - 19:07
by jaymesie51 on 24 July 2009 - 19:07
jim h
by jaymesie51 on 24 July 2009 - 20:07
1 the mandatory x-ray and scoring of hips elbows
2, mandatory haemophilia testing of all males (stud)
3,a proper DNA test for parentage
4,a breed survey of class 1 or 2
5,The right name for our breed German Shepherd Dog
6,the proper breed standard as laid down by the SV, WUSV, and the FCI
What does the KC want for the health of this breed none of the above all it wants is your money and your compliance not to double handle your dog they put more impetus on not double handing than they do on the health and welfare of our dogs
They will never go for mandatory health testing because it will effect their bank balance but they will spend time and money to stop you from calling your dog while it is in the ring the only sport in the world where you are not allowed to cheer
Jim h
by Videx on 24 July 2009 - 20:07
I await with interest the advice from our "leaders". I suspect quiet "acquiescence" no matter how well disguised.
by paulie on 24 July 2009 - 20:07
Regards Paul Rattigan.
by jaymesie51 on 24 July 2009 - 21:07
jim h
by Liebe on 24 July 2009 - 21:07
I am going to stick my head in the firing line re double handling - there is a time and a place for it - and it is inappropriate at all breed shows. I do have another breed and it is nice to go and have a day out on my own, with other exhibitors without the need for an entourage. Some people who double handle do forget other people in the vicinity and I myself have been smacked into, as have my children and this in the current litigatious society we live in the double handling provides too many issues to both the show organisers and the person undertaking the double handling. There are many show venues that can accommodate double handling (much in the way that the British Sieger does) but we dont need to be causing issues at the smaller venues. The smaller venues however dont require the extra gaiting that comes with the bigger rings.
Also many of the dogs show over exaggerated toplines due to forcing themselves into their collars as a result of all the calling and noise. Balance needs to be brought as transfering out of the KC will see many breeders with dogs that no one wants as many people want the KC registration papers and it will not be easy educating "Joe Public" to an alternative registration system, after all many dont grasp the crucial aspects of the health screening undertaken.
It is time that the KC recognised that the German Shepherd Dog originates from Europe and the current image should be in keeping with the country of origin. They need to find some back bone and stand up in accordance with the rest of the world.
by Linvek on 24 July 2009 - 21:07
It seems to me this is make or break time either we put our money where our mouths are or shut up and put up with being called Alsation.
The two day show in Wales is coming up in August, I am sure that part of a marquee would be available to have a meeting of exhibitors and maybe and invitation to those who also have our breeds interests at heart. There needs to be a plan formulated, so far all I have seen is a load of bluster which generally degenerates into a slagging match of who shouts and lasts longest on the threads of this forum.
I would suggest someone gets together with the organisers and gets an agenda together with ideas, you will definitely need a very strong master of cermonies to run the session, also a degree of investment will be needed for the plan if the way forward would be to breakaway.
I agree with Paulie that this is the time - for GSDs in the UK to take that step forward that will bring them into line with the rest of Europe.
I believe on previous threads talk has been about regionlisation and two tier systems, this would have to be formulated into the plan to ensure that shows have a more even spread across the UK.
Also if the decision to breakaway is taken then what about a national advertising campaign the biggest asset in this is either Youtube or Facebook or even Twitter to start a campaign to bring to the public attention and maybe even get some national press coverage regarding the monoply of the KC regarding dogs in the Uk and how they rake in the money without investing in the future.
Lin
by pencil on 24 July 2009 - 23:07
What is needed is a complete break away from the K.C. The breed council must do this before 2011 to give them time to establish the new order. We could have our own Breed Council CC's ( with double handling ) and make all our pioneering health checks compulsory,and sort the judging criteria out once and for all ( no committe folk to enter their own shows etc ).
Unfortunately we have to get to the Breed Council annual meeting and put forward candidates to form a new active committe ( this will require some brave people to come forward ) then we have to attend in numbers to vote the new folk on board.Now from what I have witnessed the Big Four kennels won't want to know as usual-so I will start te ball rolling and stand as Chairman.My only request would be that Videx is not involved ( otherwise too many people would be alienated by his crude ways )
Simon B.
by Videx on 24 July 2009 - 23:07
That is by way the biggest contradiction in terms I have ever read.
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