USCA General Board Meeting Results - Page 3

The backbone of both organizations is at the club level. And both have done things at the top to alienate the ones who support them. So what if WDA has a GSDCA tie in. There are very good WDA clubs turning out titled dogs and very high level competitors, national and international. And people very quickly found a way around the JA. I see the same people competing at both events, so really what purpose does it serve, other than to deny dues to one club or the other. For the record I am a UScA member.

It is ironic that the biggest affect I have seen of the JA was the WDA denying a kennel group at the recent NASS because a co-owner was not WDA. Who saw that one coming.

Thomas, how dull life would be if there was never anything to bitch and moan about. Keep up the good work.

jmo,
Rik

"The GSDCA looks at the WDA like a unwantted orphan..."

Uh, you are aware that in the beginning, UScA was also affiliated with the GSDCA; right?

 And the band plays on!

"Uh, you are aware that in the beginning, UScA was also affiliated with the GSDCA; right?"

Keith, do you have documentation on this ?

There was GSDCA involvement inSchutzhund involving Gernot Riedel Gernot Riedel
and an AKC ban.

My information is that USCA was a response to this, and always stood alone as far
as the AKC went.

USCA ties to the SV are another matter, and a very serious cloud on the horizon....

I don't have documentation, Jim, but have read in several different places over the years that in the mid-70's (after the failure of the North American Schutzhund Association), the GSDCA started organizing its own schutzhund organization.  They drew the ire of the AKC and split off from the GSDCA to form what we know today as United Schutzhund Clubs of America.  I used to know the name of one of the guys commonly credited with starting UScA and I'm pretty sure he was an American...maybe from California?  When I have time, I'll see if I can't locate that information again.

Funny...when I just searched for Riedel, the first meaningful hit I get is an excerpt from your book!

Alfons Erlert [spelling?]  He was accidently killed on his job, I understand, many many years ago.

The UScA was the GSDCA'a first wda. Pressured by the SV and others, Bill Collins, then president of the GSDCA created the UScA. When the president of UScA, Jerry Slavens and Bil Collins fought over who was golng to control the shots, Slavens walked because Collins and his cohorts neither knew anything or cared to know anything about schutzhund. They then went independent. So the GSDCA and Collins were back to square one and created a second organization about 1982, the present GSDCA-WDA. The first present was Fred Schmidtke who knew nothing, but this was not a problem since all the Schutzhunders were already in UScA. For many years, the WDA a bogus operation with no members until David Landau took over and Paul Meloy in UScA started doing his thing. This resulted in the WDA having real members. The rest is history...

If you wish to verify this account, contact Jerry Slavens in ,Columbia, Missouri. I assume he is still alive. Dick Medlin in Kentucky probably knows it and so does Landau...l

Thank you, Gertrude!  This is essentially what I've come to understand over the years with many of the details filled in.

Bob !   Putting it point blank like that I must admit I totally agree with you  .................

Alfons Ertelt was primarilarily involved in the ATTS:
http://www.angelplace.net/dog/TT.htm

Gertrude:

Last I herd Jerry Slavens was living in Florida, but it has been quite a while.

Send me your E Mail address & I will send you a copy of the history
of USCA I am working on for my book to review, you seem to have good
information, which varies in some details with what I remember.