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by mobjack on 10 March 2011 - 18:03
Good call Betty!
I'm still surprised this didn't hit the DDR Legends board days ago. It should be posted there and maybe made a sticky so new comers will see it. Isn't that the major source of info for all the DDR breeders in the states?
Jenni,
There's also plenty of other forums you could go post emails for people to read where it is not against the TOS if you wanted to. BTW, she's been making that frozen semen claim for a lot of years. If she really does have any, I'd question if it is even viable and from who she claims it is, let alone worry about being able to register anything from it. The lies she tells, and scams she pulls, I don't want to even imagine where and how she got some. Ick.
I'm still surprised this didn't hit the DDR Legends board days ago. It should be posted there and maybe made a sticky so new comers will see it. Isn't that the major source of info for all the DDR breeders in the states?
Jenni,
There's also plenty of other forums you could go post emails for people to read where it is not against the TOS if you wanted to. BTW, she's been making that frozen semen claim for a lot of years. If she really does have any, I'd question if it is even viable and from who she claims it is, let alone worry about being able to register anything from it. The lies she tells, and scams she pulls, I don't want to even imagine where and how she got some. Ick.
by Betty on 10 March 2011 - 18:03
Germanshepherds.com has a very active rescue section. I've posted there to see if anyone is involved or has any info.
by Mystere on 10 March 2011 - 18:03
quote: "When Michael Vick was arrested and his abuses came to light, people came crawling out of the woodwork for various reasons. Not all were bad people or had wrong intentions. Many people though wanted only a bit of spotlight or the notoriety they could get from having a "Michael Vick" dog or somehow being involved with that case. People wanted dogs for breeding, ego, whatever. I do not want to see that happen in even a minuscule fashion here. I care about the dogs not the bloodlines, I don't give a damn if it was a Heinz 57 mutt. "
I do recall that some questionable individuals within and outside of the pitbull community came out of the woodwork to get those dogs. Some for the notoriety, some for the personal aggrandizement they felt would accrue from association with a "Vick dog," and some undoubtedly for breeding purposes, along with the notoriety. Fortunately, some of the worst of those were prevented from getting their grubby hands on the dogs at all.
I would hope that this situation has no similarity to the Vick scenario, as far as people wanting the dogs for profit ("coin" or otherwise).
I do recall that some questionable individuals within and outside of the pitbull community came out of the woodwork to get those dogs. Some for the notoriety, some for the personal aggrandizement they felt would accrue from association with a "Vick dog," and some undoubtedly for breeding purposes, along with the notoriety. Fortunately, some of the worst of those were prevented from getting their grubby hands on the dogs at all.
I would hope that this situation has no similarity to the Vick scenario, as far as people wanting the dogs for profit ("coin" or otherwise).
by Donald Deluxe on 10 March 2011 - 19:03
"She sent me all kinds of into on where she stores hers and where to go to do it, who to talk to, and you can be she even has shady deals going on w/that."
This is information that should be turned over to the LA authorities, so that they can ask the court to order it be destroyed so that Bartmess can't use it to jump-start her "program" sometime down the road.
This is information that should be turned over to the LA authorities, so that they can ask the court to order it be destroyed so that Bartmess can't use it to jump-start her "program" sometime down the road.
by Betty on 10 March 2011 - 19:03
What a good idea! I never thought of that. Hopefully it could be a condition of her sentencing.
by Jenni78 on 10 March 2011 - 21:03
DD, been working on that. You've all seen how this woman writes. She makes me look brief. I deleted many emails, still have about a hundred. If anyone feels like helping, I'll gladly forward some to get these gone through and the good stuff picked out faster. ;-)
As long as her cohorts are free to do as they please, the same thing will happen again. It's not really the dogs or the semen that will determine the future. If everyone shunned her, it would be more likely to end. But, what are the chances of that??? Not good, unfortunately.
DDR Legends has been pretty dead lately but I could post it over there I guess. I've gotten kicked off of every other board;-)
As long as her cohorts are free to do as they please, the same thing will happen again. It's not really the dogs or the semen that will determine the future. If everyone shunned her, it would be more likely to end. But, what are the chances of that??? Not good, unfortunately.
DDR Legends has been pretty dead lately but I could post it over there I guess. I've gotten kicked off of every other board;-)
by Betty on 10 March 2011 - 22:03
I'll pm you my email addy Jenni, I'm happy to help.
Good grief, still over 100? <eek> You had quite the pen pal there, didn't you?
Good grief, still over 100? <eek> You had quite the pen pal there, didn't you?
by Jenni78 on 11 March 2011 - 02:03
Yes, I certainly did. That's only from one address of hers. You'll get to read all sorts of interesting tidbits. I responded to about 10%. Keep in mind I had NO idea who she was; I thought she was just an eccentric dog person, like many of us are. It was only when I refused to send her my dog and/or his semen that her attitude changed. It'll be interesting reading, even if it proves fruitless. I truthfully never read them thoroughly when they arrived...I mean, who, with a real life and kids and dogs and such has the time to read all that, let alone respond?!
I guess the answer is obvious why she managed to have the time....her charges/responsibilities were completely neglected.
REALLY appreciate the offer to help. I don't want to miss something that might help hang her because I'm short on time.
I guess the answer is obvious why she managed to have the time....her charges/responsibilities were completely neglected.
REALLY appreciate the offer to help. I don't want to miss something that might help hang her because I'm short on time.
by ShelleyR on 11 March 2011 - 05:03
One word: Crank
by beetree on 11 March 2011 - 13:03
Kudos to everyone working for justice and the well-being of the abused in this case.
Mystere, sometimes I can figure things out and other times........ LOL I've been thinking about it and I think "Artless Rescues" would be a good name for a rock band.
Mystere, sometimes I can figure things out and other times........ LOL I've been thinking about it and I think "Artless Rescues" would be a good name for a rock band.
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