BH, almost ready - Page 3

I have been putting her in long downs. I'm at the point where I can play fetch with my other dogs and she will stay, though she quivers and whines. I don't keep her down with such distraction for very long, it seems cruel.

Jyota is good in parking lots, near skate boards, bicycles, highways, she ignors other people when on leash (haven't tried off leash yet). Gunfire doesn't bother her. We've gone to ball games and people cheered for their teams, Been to the firestation with firefighters all suited up, and the trucks taking off with sirines on, to the police department, parks, beach, fishing piers, lakes and rivers too. She's around farm animals - except for cats and foul...... if she takes off after a cat, she will come when I call her. We've been at dog shows, Starbucks, feed stores, in the mountains. Birthday parties with 15 - 0 to 8 year olds making lots of noise. I'm running out of ideas.

She will sit and let a stranger shake my hand and we can talk for a while.  She will let someone pet her head, but she not terribly friendly, and just puts up with it. I'm working on ting her out and ducking out of site. She gets better with each repetition. I haven't tried crowding her with a bunch of people she doesn't know yet.

I have a dog to dog issue that we're working on right now........she is a real butt about strange dogs - this is our big challenge right now. It just popped up in the past few weeks.....its always somethng!

Thanks for the temperament reminder.......what other things should I try to expose her too?

this is what i saw (since you asked), you are on track but you need to have someone teach you how to train. Meaning learning how to handle, how to interact with your dog, learn how and when to give a reward and a correction. And have them explain why so it makes sense to you. WHy do i correct her now or reward now.  Etc. Hard to find trainers like that. So you should take off your sunglasses. The dog can't see your eyes. In the beggining you just looked straight ahead not towards your dog. It's a relationship out there not the terminater and her robot dog :) You need to build a stronger relationship with your dog.- the dog should be more interested in you, not what else is going on. Everytime you reward her you throw the toy real high. If you use a ball you'll build more drive throwing it hard into the ground a few feet in front of you also don't always throw the toy away from you. Hold one end and let your dog bite one end and play tug. Let her win. Watch when you reward her. She was about to go into a sit and then stopped and then you rewarded. So you rewarded her for not sitting. When you do your turns round them a little more. They are to sharp. Also be aware of what you're doing, you are swinging the toy around when you heel, you threw the leash over your back which then made your dog go back. You're not ready yet. Go back and isolate each exercise and train them. When she does them right individually then put them together. Tighten up the about turns. Teach her basic position. Fronts. Relationship is key.

   Mark

Meaning learning how to handle, how to interact with your dog, learn how and when to give a reward and a correction. And have them explain why so it makes sense to you. WHy do i correct her now or reward now. Etc. Hard to find trainers like that.


I agree wholeheartedly with you, unfortunately, there isn't anyone here like that.

sitasmom.....i took a bit more time to watch the video,first off,lose the sunglasses,you can't relay anything to the dog with sunglasses on(eyes are the window to the soul).give her a pleasing look when she's on the money.....she's showing flashes of correctness but you're ignoring it!! and forget long boring routine,do segments with high reward for when she's correct,then slowley put your routine together.straight fronts,fast return to heel,chest busting platz,magnet butt sitz,rocket recalls....when she knows these things,she'll do them....but ONLY if she knows them! SQUARE ONE isn't a bad neighborhood to restart in,but you have a foundation......and pick up your speed,she lags,you run away,when she falls in to fuss...BAM,REWARD !!!!! your dog is showing a lot of willingness to work...but why should she if you're not going to reward her when she does.i'm not a big time trainer,i'm barely "club level",but i can clearly see the mistakes you're making,but i'm sure you'll do better and go on to do a smash-up job.....good luck

Good little dog you have there.  She will make it if you clean up your act as pointed out by you, yourself and others on here.  She has what it takes and she wants to please you.  You can't ask for anything more.  Good luck and let us know when she's passed that BH.  Should be soon!

Sitasmom:  I think there are a couple clubs in Houston, aren't there?  I realize it's a bit of a hassle driving to club, but really, compared to most you are very lucky to have a couple of clubs located in the same city as you.  The problem with trying to do it on your own, is even very experienced people with dogs already trained need help (spotters).   I'm pretty sure you would find the benefits would far outweigh the inconvience!

Yes there are some clubs nearby but they mostly are only for bitework.

club #1 dayton tx, hour drie each way, basically bite work only, rest pay per lesson for everythng else even with expensive membership - tried this on and it just didn't work out!
club #2 sometmes in baytown, sometimes in hockley, sunday mornings. tracking and obedience is done there, but its mostly on your own stuff and not real lessons- conflict with going to church. hockley is at least an hour drive. when they're in baytown i visit.
club #3 magnolia tx, only bitework and 1.75 hour drive each way.
club #4 alvin tx, hour each way, i havent check them out yet. 
group #1 bite work only - hour drive each way - i do this one - Charles O has done a great job with Jyota!

You have 3 clubs within an hours drive of you and another less than 2 hours away?  WOW you are very lucky!  These are either  USA, WDA, DVG schutzhund clubs?   Most clubs don't provide  formal "ob" lessons, but OB is usually practiced by  members prior to bite work commencing.  Perhaps you need to check with the training directors to find out what time OB starts?  Generally the TD will help out the novices directly or  by teaming them up with someone more experienced who can help spot them.  If this is not the case, your next best bet would be to get to know the membership, once they see you are serious, they should be willing to help you if you ask, at the very least watch you and give you some direction,  providing you in turn, are helpful to the club in general, and are a good fit.

in the group i go to, there is someone that may help. she used shock collar on her dogs, I'm comfortable with it. I'd rather use motivational methods.

there is a trainer here in town that is fantastic, but he charges 50 for a half hour. he's been very helpful in getting me to the point I'm at right now. When I go, i ask him to teach me how to train my dog and we work on one specific handling skill at a time until i have it kinetically correct and he can see that Jyota understands. Then I go home and practice. Being laid off, i cannot afford to go very often anymore.

Sitasmom,
Which is the club that you used to belong too?  The one where the TD had competed Nationally some years back?  I remember you saying in the past how great they were?