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by FullForceK9 on 26 December 2010 - 08:12
gieske,
Iwo is not titled at this time, but will be titled through service dogs of america. You can find him at: http://users.csc.tntech.edu/~nwprice42/rayl/iwo.html
Jack Rayl owns Iwo and is located in TN. Iwo was imported by Gary Hanrahan and is a extremely high drive male. I couldn't say enough great things about this dog, but call Gary, Jack or anyone else who has ever worked this dog and see what they have to say.
Iwo is not titled at this time, but will be titled through service dogs of america. You can find him at: http://users.csc.tntech.edu/~nwprice42/rayl/iwo.html
Jack Rayl owns Iwo and is located in TN. Iwo was imported by Gary Hanrahan and is a extremely high drive male. I couldn't say enough great things about this dog, but call Gary, Jack or anyone else who has ever worked this dog and see what they have to say.
by darylehret on 26 December 2010 - 08:12
Nickie is trained as a "herding female", and yes I put titles on her. Your reading comprehension sucks; I'm not breeding Nickie. Keep F-in with me, all your accusations are laughable at this point. You stand for nothing I can respect.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 26 December 2010 - 13:12
Quote: Jeff, you are full of crap as usual. Everything you post is crap as usual. Your dog is crap.
Boy, you better hope so ! So bitter molly, the doorknob production queen.
Quote : I guess you are jealous,
Yes, I have a door that I need to keep open, send me one of your doorstops would ya ?
Quote: People who breed underage dogs with no titles, no test of breedworthiness at all, no health checks and no thoughts about the breeding other than the dogs in the pedigree, or breeders who have all sorts of excuses why the dogs are not titled or worked - are fooling themselves and fooling the people ignorant enough to buy from them.
Underage dogs ? How old is underage ? What is the test for breedworthiness ? Titles in your own backyard ? And yes, you are selling dogs, so you have fooled people haven't you ? I saw a resue once that couldn't be kenneled and if she was, would chew her tail till it was bloody. Sound familiar ?
Quote: Anyone interested in my dogs can come meet them in person, work them, see them worked, talk to the trainers and helpers who work them and know them personally, watch videos,
Videos ? Did you say videos ? Hey, show us a video of beagle working. That would be great.
Quote: Many smart breeders are bringing their females to Bandit, and so far I haven't heard of any unsatisfied breeders or puppy buyers. (YOU would be one of those breeders LOL)
Bandit ? Would that be beagle progeny ? No thank you. I only have the one door I need propped open.
Quote: There is really no reason to take him to the big trials - he's getting plenty of breedings without taking him there (as is his brother).
Who ? Big trials ? You mean other than the fact that he is born of a shitter ?
Quote: Or, I might not. Up to me LOL
You mean cackle out loud ?
That is a stupid picture. Ugly dog. How much whipping up did that take ?? The amusing thing is you are still hoping that your opinion means anything to people like me. Unlike you, I am not going to fakey title a dog with a shit temperament. Unlike you, I am not going to whip my dogs up to get them to bite, they either work, or they don't work. Unlike you, I do not have a long history of breeding shitter doorknobs.
If the litter is shit, then they will not go anywhere, and I will not tell people how great they are. Unlike you. You see, I have no problems telling people what is going on. I also was not selling them here, as I have people that want the pups, unlike you.
HA HA
Boy, you better hope so ! So bitter molly, the doorknob production queen.
Quote : I guess you are jealous,
Yes, I have a door that I need to keep open, send me one of your doorstops would ya ?
Quote: People who breed underage dogs with no titles, no test of breedworthiness at all, no health checks and no thoughts about the breeding other than the dogs in the pedigree, or breeders who have all sorts of excuses why the dogs are not titled or worked - are fooling themselves and fooling the people ignorant enough to buy from them.
Underage dogs ? How old is underage ? What is the test for breedworthiness ? Titles in your own backyard ? And yes, you are selling dogs, so you have fooled people haven't you ? I saw a resue once that couldn't be kenneled and if she was, would chew her tail till it was bloody. Sound familiar ?
Quote: Anyone interested in my dogs can come meet them in person, work them, see them worked, talk to the trainers and helpers who work them and know them personally, watch videos,
Videos ? Did you say videos ? Hey, show us a video of beagle working. That would be great.
Quote: Many smart breeders are bringing their females to Bandit, and so far I haven't heard of any unsatisfied breeders or puppy buyers. (YOU would be one of those breeders LOL)
Bandit ? Would that be beagle progeny ? No thank you. I only have the one door I need propped open.
Quote: There is really no reason to take him to the big trials - he's getting plenty of breedings without taking him there (as is his brother).
Who ? Big trials ? You mean other than the fact that he is born of a shitter ?
Quote: Or, I might not. Up to me LOL
You mean cackle out loud ?
That is a stupid picture. Ugly dog. How much whipping up did that take ?? The amusing thing is you are still hoping that your opinion means anything to people like me. Unlike you, I am not going to fakey title a dog with a shit temperament. Unlike you, I am not going to whip my dogs up to get them to bite, they either work, or they don't work. Unlike you, I do not have a long history of breeding shitter doorknobs.
If the litter is shit, then they will not go anywhere, and I will not tell people how great they are. Unlike you. You see, I have no problems telling people what is going on. I also was not selling them here, as I have people that want the pups, unlike you.
HA HA
by eichenluft on 26 December 2010 - 14:12
No Jeff (and Daryl) - your opinions mean nothing to me. You haven't DONE anything, BRED anything, or TRAINED anything to ANY titles that would make your opinions educated enough to mean anything to anyone. But keep on talking, maybe someone will listen, unfortunately. There are plenty of videos of my dogs working - just do a search on youtube. How about that video of Esko Jeff, for people who might be interested in one of his puppies? Show how strong a working dog he is, how much he takes after the dogs in his pedigree you obviously bred him for.
Jeff, that is Bandit in the picture, he is not related to Eagle, though the Eagle son and daughter I have work awesome just like their father did, as do the rest of the Eagle puppies out there. Bandit takes no "whipping up" to make him powerful on the helper, as the picture shows him to be. But you wouldn't know that, because you have never met him or seen him work in person. Nor have you ever talked with anyone who has worked him. So you have zero knowledge of how he is worked or anything about him. Keep on bashing dogs you don't know anything about. I'll keep sticking to the facts - where is that video of your Esko so people can see what you are breeding? The female too?
Daryl, you specifically said you are breeding your "herding female". Backtracking now isn't going to work. Why don't you stick to the facts about your breeding program - you breed untitled unworked dogs to untitled unworked dogs. Based on their pedigrees. People can find the same bloodlines from breeders who do work and title their dogs. It just takes research and not buying from people who just talk on the internet. Puppy buyers reading this, please do your research and don't buy from "breeders" who just talk on the internet. Buy from breeders who actually do the work. There are plenty of us. Just look around and learn what to look for, and what to avoid.
molly
Jeff, that is Bandit in the picture, he is not related to Eagle, though the Eagle son and daughter I have work awesome just like their father did, as do the rest of the Eagle puppies out there. Bandit takes no "whipping up" to make him powerful on the helper, as the picture shows him to be. But you wouldn't know that, because you have never met him or seen him work in person. Nor have you ever talked with anyone who has worked him. So you have zero knowledge of how he is worked or anything about him. Keep on bashing dogs you don't know anything about. I'll keep sticking to the facts - where is that video of your Esko so people can see what you are breeding? The female too?
Daryl, you specifically said you are breeding your "herding female". Backtracking now isn't going to work. Why don't you stick to the facts about your breeding program - you breed untitled unworked dogs to untitled unworked dogs. Based on their pedigrees. People can find the same bloodlines from breeders who do work and title their dogs. It just takes research and not buying from people who just talk on the internet. Puppy buyers reading this, please do your research and don't buy from "breeders" who just talk on the internet. Buy from breeders who actually do the work. There are plenty of us. Just look around and learn what to look for, and what to avoid.
molly
by Jeff Oehlsen on 26 December 2010 - 15:12
Quote: Puppy buyers reading this, please do your research and don't buy from "breeders" who just talk on the internet. Buy from breeders who actually do the work.
Yes, people that trial their dogs in their backyard, and IF they are the breed warden, should have a breed survey on the bitch, and oooops, no survey.
I, unlike you, have a higher standard. How old is an underage dog again ? LOL
Quote: Eagle son and daughter I have work awesome just like their father did, as do the rest of the Eagle puppies out there.
Sure molly whatever you say. Show us their awesome work. Just put up a video of this awesome work. And how about that video of beagle ? I will post a video of Esko's work soon enough. You see, I don't have all these insecurities that many people do about their dogs and the work. Unlike you, I know that he is not a sleeve sucking piece of shit like beagle. Maybe people should see what you think a "stud" dog is, and then they can watch Esko work, and make their own choice. Maybe they will not like him, and that is ok. That is how this works. Not you just running your mouth about trials and titles. Knowing Sch, I am sure that you have gotten over by getting the "right" judge to trial under, and the "right" helpers that will save your dogs from running off the field. I am sure that the whole "breed warden" crap helps you out, although that is truely an embarrassment.
Daryl and I will continue to do whatever the hell we want, and if anyone wants to look, what do you care ? I find it amusing that you continue to produce 1 ok dog out of every 10 litters, and want to bust our balls for breeding dogs. HA HA
Yes, people that trial their dogs in their backyard, and IF they are the breed warden, should have a breed survey on the bitch, and oooops, no survey.
I, unlike you, have a higher standard. How old is an underage dog again ? LOL
Quote: Eagle son and daughter I have work awesome just like their father did, as do the rest of the Eagle puppies out there.
Sure molly whatever you say. Show us their awesome work. Just put up a video of this awesome work. And how about that video of beagle ? I will post a video of Esko's work soon enough. You see, I don't have all these insecurities that many people do about their dogs and the work. Unlike you, I know that he is not a sleeve sucking piece of shit like beagle. Maybe people should see what you think a "stud" dog is, and then they can watch Esko work, and make their own choice. Maybe they will not like him, and that is ok. That is how this works. Not you just running your mouth about trials and titles. Knowing Sch, I am sure that you have gotten over by getting the "right" judge to trial under, and the "right" helpers that will save your dogs from running off the field. I am sure that the whole "breed warden" crap helps you out, although that is truely an embarrassment.
Daryl and I will continue to do whatever the hell we want, and if anyone wants to look, what do you care ? I find it amusing that you continue to produce 1 ok dog out of every 10 litters, and want to bust our balls for breeding dogs. HA HA
by darylehret on 26 December 2010 - 15:12
You mean I NOW breed untitled unworked dogs to untitled unworked dogs. Yeah, I'd like to breed the titled herding female in the latter half of next year. And again, your comprehension sucks, because I specifically said I don't know if I can get her to the titled stud dog I want her bred to.
I don't send my dogs off for their herding titles like you do. Since I'm not looking for "puppy buyers" you can scream for their appeal all you want about what I'm doing. Obviously, anything said here won't hinder business, since you're still pumping them out! I haven't sold a pup in nearly three years, and they were all from titled dogs before. You've probably sold half a thousand out of your shitters during that time, because you always have two or three litters going at all times all throughout the year. And you know what? We'll probably never see any one of them become anything. You're a "pet peddler".
"Backtracking now isn't going to work."
I don't send my dogs off for their herding titles like you do. Since I'm not looking for "puppy buyers" you can scream for their appeal all you want about what I'm doing. Obviously, anything said here won't hinder business, since you're still pumping them out! I haven't sold a pup in nearly three years, and they were all from titled dogs before. You've probably sold half a thousand out of your shitters during that time, because you always have two or three litters going at all times all throughout the year. And you know what? We'll probably never see any one of them become anything. You're a "pet peddler".
"Backtracking now isn't going to work."
by judron55 on 26 December 2010 - 16:12
well, here we go again....people don't seem to get enough:-)
by Slamdunc on 26 December 2010 - 19:12
Ron,
When is enough, enough?
Jim
When is enough, enough?
Jim
by Gustav on 26 December 2010 - 20:12
Gieske,
I have seen Iwo worked on many occaisions and he is a very strong dog. I saw him worked by Wayne Dodge, who IMO is one of the strongest, knowledgable decoys in the country. No give in any quarter. He is in the same class as Wasko in terms of being a dog that could easily go from sport to police.
I have seen Iwo worked on many occaisions and he is a very strong dog. I saw him worked by Wayne Dodge, who IMO is one of the strongest, knowledgable decoys in the country. No give in any quarter. He is in the same class as Wasko in terms of being a dog that could easily go from sport to police.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 26 December 2010 - 20:12
Quote: well, here we go again....people don't seem to get enough:-)
Quote: Ron,
When is enough, enough?
No one is making either of you read the thread. It is easy enough to just skip over it. There are many people that I just don't read their posts if it is more than two sentences. Maybe that will help you with your urge to control other people and what they say.
Quote: Ron,
When is enough, enough?
No one is making either of you read the thread. It is easy enough to just skip over it. There are many people that I just don't read their posts if it is more than two sentences. Maybe that will help you with your urge to control other people and what they say.
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