Hips - Page 2

BlackMalinois - do prospective clients of the two other working shepherd breeds in your sphere normally request the extensive health testing and documentation as they might had they been interested in a GS instead?

Some people do more investigation than others and some breeders too most people only check the hips,elbows and back, and some do also eyes ,teeth and other parts

 

Of course. I'm thinking the GS gets more scrutiny in terms of health history than the Mal or Dutch. Maybe for good reason..

The GSD have more health problems than the other 2, and I can,t say that all GSD breeders are so
accurate in . But every breed have their problems some have more than the other .

Have owned 21 X malinois never have any problems with them , have owned 4 FCI- GSD and 2 of them problems with hips and ellbows .

 

We recently had 2 pups diagnosed with elbow problems,

One was a male pup that had Ununited ancorneal process (UAP) and the other was a female from a different litter.

The male had the grandmother of the female for his mom, so now I'm tweaking our breeding program, our dogs are closely linebred, we go out and then come back in.

When you go out and use unrelated studs, you get some more new faults along with the good attributes 😉🐕

You can have a stud with the excellent hips and crappy elbows, I'm staying clear of that stud, so down the line I'll have clear elbows happening, it's all about doing right by the breed, clear to clear, after all, they walk on all fours 🐕😉

 

So that bring me to a question how many generations in a pedigree do you look at? I have been told third by many but I personally want to see 5 back.

And update. I was not booted for bringing up hips on the forum per say.....found out the the owner of the forum had many hip problems with her breeding stock and wanted to avoid her past problems.

Johnson k9,

I'm with you, I personally would like to see at least hips and elbows done on all the dogs in five generations back, 👍

We also breed Labrador Retrievers, and our Labs have dogs that were checked about seven generations back, so we don't see any problems with our line of Labs.

Makes perfect sense

But in order to get an accurate and fair evaluation on hips and elbows you need to do not only 5 generations back but you need to have evaluations done on littermates as well as sire/dam. Good luck to all

Environment is important! Obesity in dogs is a mean thing to do to them. And I believe it is the owners responsibility to control it. My dog carried an extra 20 lbs most of his life. He is almost 7 now, I have owned him for 2 years. While his hips are still in place, he cannot get a good at this time due to onset of arthritis. Elbows were normal. He is my home protector so we will cease training and working him and continue to love him and make his life easy. He still runs and has a good time with no visible issues at this time. A dog doesn't know he is overweight! Be a responsible dog owner and control their weight. I know a thick dog looks good to some people, but you aren't doing his heart and bones any good trying make him look thick!

Agree Rhumphrey does them no good what so ever at any time but they pay the dues as they start the aging process which is now 3-4 years old when it used to be middle aged at 5-8. Very very sad and my boy has put on some weight this past 6 months and has never been at all overweight and I am having a VERY hard time taking that excess off. Will watch him a little closer from now on it came on him all of a sudden. AND right before my eyes. I can honestly say it started happening at the mark of his 6 birthday. Not happy about it either. It's the kibble that is the culprit. Meat and home cooked seems to be so much better for them. Well same for humans I suppose. So have been researching what to do with my boy if he starts showing any pain signs, now on PDB under "Arthritis" supplements/medications. Some good info and quick reading and study if you are interested. Currently on page 1. Have a great day, Nan