Proposed Schutzhund Rule Changes for 2011

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by Rik on 04 November 2010 - 23:11

ronin, thanks for the information and translation.

Rik

by ronin on 04 November 2010 - 23:11

Thanks for your comments Rik, it was a lot of hassle but I found it interesting and thought others would appreciate it.

by Ramage on 05 November 2010 - 04:11

This is very interesting. I looked all over Google and could not find the source. Can you please post the source of this info?

by ronin on 05 November 2010 - 10:11

The source (don't have a link unfortunately) was Lance Collins (Wusv Judge) from an email he wrote to all the Canadian Schutzhund Clubs I believe.

by judron55 on 05 November 2010 - 11:11

I believe these rules were to take affect in 2011 but, have been pushed back to 2012!

by Kaffirdog on 05 November 2010 - 11:11

"Escape - the handler must give a command to the dog. The dog cannot go independently into the escape. If the dog does the escape exercise without a command then it goes down one grading."

While I appreciate this change is a good exercise in control, it seems impractical in a dog that is working for real. Any idea why this change was put in?

Margaret N-J

by ronin on 05 November 2010 - 13:11

Hi Margaret,

It does seem a lot to ask, this is similar to how many Police dogs are trained, however the end product on the street often looks a bit different.

I think they are trying to put more control into the protection work with the dog not always deploying independently.
Now this may make sense when an offender suddenly runs off towards a busy road and you don't want the dog to instinctively give chase but in the Back Transport I believe that during a sudden attack the dog should instantly deal with the impending threat to itself/handler.
There should be a balance between calculated deployment and natural reaction
It's possible that this is toot appease the politically correct that animals are not making there own decisions to use force, and it remains the decision of the Handler ; Human Rights the force is proportionate, legitimate, absolutely necessary.

Caveat; Please appreciate the above comments are in the context of a sport/breed test in case some KNPV nutter gets upset with the reality thing.

People will always find a way to manage the exercise in competition i.e. can you shout very quickly as the dog reacts so the Judge isn't quite sure to limit points lost, I don't know. I do worry that certain dogs will have tough training days ahead of them.
Obviously walking and talking the same time will disadvantage us blokes and I plan to appeal the decison!

Mark ( & Ety)

by gsdshow on 05 November 2010 - 13:11

"Heeling with the head turned up the way that Malinois frequently heel is not a natural body posture for a German Shepherd and can not be graded excellent".

So are they telling us that if our GSD does it this way we will never be able to get a "V" rating?

by RLHAR on 05 November 2010 - 15:11

GSDSHOW,

I read this and in my completely confused opinion :) I think they mean what's called "headback" heeling. Not what you're dog is doing in your avatar but something that is much more extreme.

It's something done with Mali's and looks good on a Mali but I saw a video of a GSD who was taught this extreme 'headback' and personally I cringed. I felt it looked horrible on a GSD because it set the dog literally back on his hocks to walk while throwing his front legs out in front of him and his chin was pointed straight up at the handler's shoulder.

by gsdshow on 05 November 2010 - 16:11

RLHAR

Thank you for your response, I agree with you it is confusing.

Kathy

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