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by Emoore on 24 October 2011 - 15:10
Fernendez@FL said: "For some he may be oversized but that is on some eyes and opinions; for other he is just perfect."
Forgive me for my ignorance, I know very little about show dogs. But I was under the impression there was a written standard for size?
Forgive me for my ignorance, I know very little about show dogs. But I was under the impression there was a written standard for size?
by autobahn on 24 October 2011 - 15:10
Lol. There is also a written standard for bitework but that doesnt always get followed.
by Fernandez@FL on 24 October 2011 - 19:10
Autobahn, is correct and that is what I meant. Sure there are guidelines, a judge can fallow them or bend them depending on how the dog overall performs, and there is a lot that plays during a judge decision. But you are both correct, there are guidelines and not always they are fallowed. So it is on whose eyes and what they are looking for during a show. Arak will do well, regardless of his size, we seen this before.
by Ibrahim on 24 October 2011 - 21:10
Judges do their work, sometimes they are correct and sometimes they are not and maybe influenced by let us say the trend or powerful breeders etc, but still we should give our opinions and judgements based on the standard, when we give an opinion which does not go by the standard we should mention that otherwise the newbies would get confused and we would be encouraging further slipping away from the standard.
Example, XXXXX dog is oversized as per the standard but other than that he's almost perfect, and or if bred to smaller bitches offspring will be great, and or him being oversized does not justify removing him from being a remarkable stud.
Arguments shouldn't go to; so what! many other dogs are oversized like xxxx dog, or guidelines are not followed, let's not justify faults of a dog because others have the same and are getting away with it. Just my opinion with no offense to any or to the subject dog which I don't know and never seen.
Ibrahim
Example, XXXXX dog is oversized as per the standard but other than that he's almost perfect, and or if bred to smaller bitches offspring will be great, and or him being oversized does not justify removing him from being a remarkable stud.
Arguments shouldn't go to; so what! many other dogs are oversized like xxxx dog, or guidelines are not followed, let's not justify faults of a dog because others have the same and are getting away with it. Just my opinion with no offense to any or to the subject dog which I don't know and never seen.
Ibrahim
by Fernandez@FL on 24 October 2011 - 21:10
Ibrahim, yes you are absolutely correct and you explained well, Amen!
by CMills on 26 October 2011 - 00:10
So how oversized is Arak? how tall is he? Just curious!!
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