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by jc.carroll on 24 April 2011 - 12:04
I prefer to wait till 3yrs for neutering a male that won't be bred. Let him mature fully. Depending on lines, 2yrs is still a period of physical and mental growth, and to allow him to become fully male, I see no harm in letting them have an extra year to be sure they're completely done developing.
If a male's starting to show a bit of aggression, neutering won't fix that. The best fix is training for that one.
If a male's starting to show a bit of aggression, neutering won't fix that. The best fix is training for that one.
by Jenni78 on 24 April 2011 - 18:04
Kaoboy, there are hundreds of threads on this topic in which I and several others have contributed worthwhile information that we don't feel like typing over and over again. If I were you, I'd use the search function, and happy reading!
I have 4 intact males and 4 intact females here on my property. None have ever done ANY of the things you're stating you're concerned about (running away, care about females 5mi away, etc.). When my females are in heat and I don't want them bred, I don't let the males run w/them unsupervised, and if supervised, I tell them to leave it. It's really quite simple.
I have 4 intact males and 4 intact females here on my property. None have ever done ANY of the things you're stating you're concerned about (running away, care about females 5mi away, etc.). When my females are in heat and I don't want them bred, I don't let the males run w/them unsupervised, and if supervised, I tell them to leave it. It's really quite simple.
by Ryanhaus on 25 April 2011 - 10:04
I agree with Jenni78,
I have intact males that never roam, and when females come into heat, I just don't let them out
together.
You will probably run into more spayed females than females in heat over the course of time.
Through personal experience of owning male & female dogs throughout the years, I think spaying
and neutering makes them gain more weight than if they were left intact, and it calms them down quite a bit.
You don't have to neuter the dog if you are not planning to breed him, just don't breed him.
Good luck,
Paula
I have intact males that never roam, and when females come into heat, I just don't let them out
together.
You will probably run into more spayed females than females in heat over the course of time.
Through personal experience of owning male & female dogs throughout the years, I think spaying
and neutering makes them gain more weight than if they were left intact, and it calms them down quite a bit.
You don't have to neuter the dog if you are not planning to breed him, just don't breed him.
Good luck,
Paula
by muttlover25 on 25 April 2011 - 16:04
All our dogs are fixed at 5-6 months of age all have great muscle tone and don't look smaller or different than their siblings that were never fixed. My Am Staff was neutered at 5 months old and he's more muscular and larger than his 3 other brothers who never were neutered so don't let that stop you. If you do neuter him now it will help with the issues you are having.
Amy
Amy
by VKGSDs on 25 April 2011 - 16:04
I would wait until the dog is 2 years old (fully mature physically). Even altered males can show interest in bitches in heat. They can mount and tie too. And mark.... IMO most of these "reason" to neuter a male could be training/management issues. Just being neutered does not instantly alter these habits.
by Jenni78 on 25 April 2011 - 22:04
No way do they have "great muscle tone". I can just about tell a neutered dog from an intact dog by looking at them for ten seconds. Dogs people think look great and muscular are usually fat.
Of course they grow larger; those hormones are needed for closing growth plates, so when you neuter them young, they keep growing taller, which is NOT a good thing!!! It's even worse for a GSD than a shorter/smaller breed.
I will not even sell a dog to someone who plans on neutering. It's just too detrimental to their health and I prefer not to sell to people who put their own convenience ahead of their dogs' optimum health.
Of course they grow larger; those hormones are needed for closing growth plates, so when you neuter them young, they keep growing taller, which is NOT a good thing!!! It's even worse for a GSD than a shorter/smaller breed.
I will not even sell a dog to someone who plans on neutering. It's just too detrimental to their health and I prefer not to sell to people who put their own convenience ahead of their dogs' optimum health.
by ggturner on 25 April 2011 - 22:04
My 2 yr old intact male is not a problem at all. I don't plan on getting him neutered. He does not have aggression issues. He is very athletic and muscular and we prefer to keep him that way.
by mollyandjack on 26 April 2011 - 01:04
I would never have a medical procedure done on my dog for the sake of convenience. Just my perspective on it. My dog is intact, will never be neutered, has not been bred and will not be bred - and it hasn't been particularly difficult to manage this. He does not run away at the beach to look for love ;-) He has aggression, yes, but I think that if you have to take away a dog's ability to reach it's true genetic potential in order to feel comfortable living with it, then you've made a mistake in acquiring that dog. Just my thoughts FWIW. I would at least wait until the dog is two.
by kaoboy on 26 April 2011 - 06:04
thanks for all the advice.
i will wait till he is fully grown. both mentally and physically and will go from there..
thanks for all the input, wasnt sure and it helps since most of you have nice dogs, and do schz.
thank you once again
i will wait till he is fully grown. both mentally and physically and will go from there..
thanks for all the input, wasnt sure and it helps since most of you have nice dogs, and do schz.
thank you once again
by Prager on 26 April 2011 - 08:04
Do not do it as a conveninece but only if the dog has a medical problem.
Save your money aand spend it on training!
Train your dog and love your dog the way mother nature of God or what ever you believe in created it.
The people who say it has no effect on the dog have have no clue what they are talking about, or they are lying or they have agenda. If it would be the truth then why to do it?
I can look at dog walking 100 ft from me and if it had been spayed or neutered in ANY AGE for more then 1 yr I'll will be able to determine if he /she was altered in 99% of cases just by the way it looks and walks.
I always tell people:... if it is good, then alter your self.:)
Prager Hans
Save your money aand spend it on training!
Train your dog and love your dog the way mother nature of God or what ever you believe in created it.
The people who say it has no effect on the dog have have no clue what they are talking about, or they are lying or they have agenda. If it would be the truth then why to do it?
I can look at dog walking 100 ft from me and if it had been spayed or neutered in ANY AGE for more then 1 yr I'll will be able to determine if he /she was altered in 99% of cases just by the way it looks and walks.
I always tell people:... if it is good, then alter your self.:)
Prager Hans
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