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myret

by myret on 07 January 2011 - 10:01

Silbersee

I know that one breeder here has udsed him to and is very bleesed with the offspring his kennel

I think is is good that the gsd breeders use other lines than only the Schh lines maybe it can improve the offsprings working ability



by CISKO2 on 07 January 2011 - 16:01

J'ai un fils d'Aronn également (11 mois). C'est trés prometteur, disponible au travail et visiblement beaucoup de caractère. A voir plus tard lorsqu'on mettra plus de contraintes dans le dressage.
La fiche de Vasco : www.working-dog.eu/dogs-details/48155/Vasco%20du%20Val%20des%20Hurles%20Vent/
Le site de Mr BERNEUIL Elevage du Val des Hurles Vent : http://www.bergerallemandhurlevent.com/hurlevent/index.php?page=accueil&w=2

by johan77 on 07 January 2011 - 19:01

 There is a policedog in sweden that have had plenty of breedings, he is from similar lines on his mothers side, very good HD/ED results and also his progeny scoring very good in charactertest,
www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/561552.html

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 07 January 2011 - 20:01

lance,
to answer your question is to explain SV breeding regulations.
If a breeder resides in Germany, he obviously has to be a member of and breed under the regulations of the SV (or now alternatively also the RSV-2000).
The SV regulates that only litters will be registered (and receive papers) out of parents who have a minimum of SchH1 or HGH trialed under an SV judge. The subsequent titles can be under any VDH (and/or FCI) recognized working judge but the first one has to be under an SV judge. Mondio and French Ring are not recognized within the SV.
Further, the dog has to have hips and elbows certified under an FCI scheme plus the dog has to have a minimum show rating of G or better. A DNA sample of the parents has to be stored and if one of the parents is a foreign bred dog (as is the case with Vasco), the DNA has to be verified and certified. So, the SV had to have the samples of Vasco's parents drawn for Vasco to get a permission to be bred in Germany.
These requirements will be enough for white papers issued, which sound fine to foreigners but no respected German breeder voluntarily accepts them. Everybody wants pink papers issued for their litters.
In addition to the already mentioned requirements, a dog needs to also be breed surveyed under an SV Körmeister.  If it is done in Germany, a hip and elbow certification under the SV a/ED system is mandatory, no foreign certifications. If the dogs in the first two generations (parents and grandparents) are German born, they all need to meet these requirements. If dogs are foreign bred, only the parents have to meet these requirements. That is why litters resulting out of Vasco were issued pink papers, even though his parents did not meet these requirements.
As you can read, German breeders are really restricted in their choices of foreign dogs. That is the reason, it is not done often.
I live in the U.S. but voluntarily breed under the SV regulations. That means a lot of hurdles to jump over and in the future more requirements might be added (spine certifications). It is becoming tougher and tougher.
Chris

myret

by myret on 07 January 2011 - 21:01

johan

yes I have noticed that Monark is used often but have never seen the dog but yoold like to se him





 


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