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by jessiejames on 17 August 2010 - 20:08
I am going to wear my serious hat, Wildwoman is capable of anything an I am very scared
I have just flushed my sense of humour down the toilet after wiping my own arse with it.
I have just flushed my sense of humour down the toilet after wiping my own arse with it.
by charlesppope on 17 August 2010 - 20:08
Joyce has by all accounts bred more than one dog with EPI and bred from a dog which has sibling(s) with high hip scores and EPI if I read the post correctly (and it's impossible to read it now)
If we're being fair here, Joyce wasn't the only one to breed from the Atlas/Thyme litter. At least on of the bitches was bred from when it was known there might be some problems. Again this is not spilling any beans because its been common knowledge for a very long time.
If we're being fair here, Joyce wasn't the only one to breed from the Atlas/Thyme litter. At least on of the bitches was bred from when it was known there might be some problems. Again this is not spilling any beans because its been common knowledge for a very long time.
by jessiejames on 17 August 2010 - 21:08
AWWWW - poor Joycie babe. She keeps getting dragged into this. Bet she wishes she never set foot on georges forum.
I'm just off to copy and paste some more stuff from there before I get banned. The members are dropping like cupcakes
If I don't come back you know wildwoman has taken me hostage ring 999
we don't know what she is capable of
I'm just off to copy and paste some more stuff from there before I get banned. The members are dropping like cupcakes
If I don't come back you know wildwoman has taken me hostage ring 999
we don't know what she is capable ofby Merryvale on 17 August 2010 - 21:08
Charlespope
I was not"having a go" at Joyce more having a go at Wildmoor. She (Wildmoor) has been and is very scathing over breeders that have bred from dogs that carry and produce Epilepsy,HD,ED,AF and EPI and who's dogs have siblings with high hip scores etc. I was merely pointing out that Wildmoor appears to have operated a double standard with regards to Joyce.
Wildmoor has also been very scathing of breederswho breed for blue,liver etc dogs and yet she has remained very quiet when breeders of those colors posted pics of their puppies on certain forums
I was not"having a go" at Joyce more having a go at Wildmoor. She (Wildmoor) has been and is very scathing over breeders that have bred from dogs that carry and produce Epilepsy,HD,ED,AF and EPI and who's dogs have siblings with high hip scores etc. I was merely pointing out that Wildmoor appears to have operated a double standard with regards to Joyce.
Wildmoor has also been very scathing of breederswho breed for blue,liver etc dogs and yet she has remained very quiet when breeders of those colors posted pics of their puppies on certain forums
by utonogian on 17 August 2010 - 22:08
Get a grip. Plenty of people will have read the posts, so them getting deleted does not delete them from people's minds. Plenty of important posts move off the front page through the actions of idiots posting crap threads, so the being deleted is annoying, but c'est la vie. Would you rather they stayed at the top of the board forever. I wouldn't. Get over it. Let other posts have their place - not all will be good - but it is so annoying when some hog the board. Move on.
by Abby Normal on 18 August 2010 - 12:08
I think it far more likely that the ridiculous behaviour of some on those threads caused people to despair and get it removed. Read the forum terms of service - personal vendetta's are a no no. If you guys (excluding Jeanette and Claire) have something other than a personal vendetta, then post the details. If not give it a rest, and leave Jeanette's thread in peace, to ensure THAT also isn't removed, as it is important.
by jessiejames on 18 August 2010 - 18:08
I don't have a personnel vendetta
Jessiejames aka THE HIGHWAY MAN
Robber of the bad - Defender of the undefended
by Joyce on 20 August 2010 - 02:08
I swore down I would never comment on posts such as these, but due to this and other posts some facts need correcting
Joyce has by all accounts bred more than one dog with EPI and bred from a dog which has sibling(s) with high hip scores and EPI if I read the post correctly (and it's impossible to read it now)
You read wrong, I am sure Linda will post it back on if need be
We have bred no dog with EPI, Eiko's sister had high hips - Documented FACT - Eiko's hip score was 4:3 total 7
Fact - we owned Eiko, we were not his breeders, did not own or breed any of his siblings.
We bred the first litter from him, none of the resulting puppies were bred from.all were healthy and lived well into their teens.
Fact regarding EPI, This was made PUBLIC by the us the owners, after the first case was brought to our attention, It is a known fact we informed Dr Malcolm Willis (Breed Geneticist) the day we got the phone call, Eiko was withdrawn immediately against his advice.
If you want further proof why not phone Helen Malcolm's wife, Malcolm may be ill but he has all his faculties, Until a dog is used there is no way of knowing what problem they will produce, it is what you do after as a owner that counts, The dog was withdrawn IMMEDIATELY, There was clearly a problem here as more facts came to light AFTER he was withdrawn,
but the fact remains after the we were told by the breeder (who does post on here) he was withdrawn.
Fact - We still got stud enquiries after he was withdrawn, Fact - They were told the truth why he was withdrawn.
And to answer the other posts regarding Joanne's forum
Where I choose to post and why is no one'S business the fact that Joanne is the owner is irrelevant, I have been a member for 18months, - Regarding what is going on between her and her breeders, I don't and wont get involved it is not my business, and to suggest I am a member as I have something to hide- in the world of showing believe me nothing is a secret.
One of reasons given was Pam and Joanne would not spill any beans, Well sorry to disappoint you there's none to spill
All the info you found regarding EPI is available on our web site, and the FACTS as I have stated are the truth all in black and white through the BRS, and a phone call away.
My apologies to the members of this forum for fetching this back onto the board, but felt it needed to be said.
Joyce has by all accounts bred more than one dog with EPI and bred from a dog which has sibling(s) with high hip scores and EPI if I read the post correctly (and it's impossible to read it now)
You read wrong, I am sure Linda will post it back on if need be
We have bred no dog with EPI, Eiko's sister had high hips - Documented FACT - Eiko's hip score was 4:3 total 7
Fact - we owned Eiko, we were not his breeders, did not own or breed any of his siblings.
We bred the first litter from him, none of the resulting puppies were bred from.all were healthy and lived well into their teens.
Fact regarding EPI, This was made PUBLIC by the us the owners, after the first case was brought to our attention, It is a known fact we informed Dr Malcolm Willis (Breed Geneticist) the day we got the phone call, Eiko was withdrawn immediately against his advice.
If you want further proof why not phone Helen Malcolm's wife, Malcolm may be ill but he has all his faculties, Until a dog is used there is no way of knowing what problem they will produce, it is what you do after as a owner that counts, The dog was withdrawn IMMEDIATELY, There was clearly a problem here as more facts came to light AFTER he was withdrawn,
but the fact remains after the we were told by the breeder (who does post on here) he was withdrawn.
Fact - We still got stud enquiries after he was withdrawn, Fact - They were told the truth why he was withdrawn.
And to answer the other posts regarding Joanne's forum
Where I choose to post and why is no one'S business the fact that Joanne is the owner is irrelevant, I have been a member for 18months, - Regarding what is going on between her and her breeders, I don't and wont get involved it is not my business, and to suggest I am a member as I have something to hide- in the world of showing believe me nothing is a secret.
One of reasons given was Pam and Joanne would not spill any beans, Well sorry to disappoint you there's none to spill
All the info you found regarding EPI is available on our web site, and the FACTS as I have stated are the truth all in black and white through the BRS, and a phone call away.
My apologies to the members of this forum for fetching this back onto the board, but felt it needed to be said.
by windwalker18 on 20 August 2010 - 03:08
Another day................
another drama...
Thank goodness that my dog can't read this stuff!!
PLAY NICE.... lol
another drama...
Thank goodness that my dog can't read this stuff!!
PLAY NICE.... lol
by Merryvale on 20 August 2010 - 12:08
Joyce
"We have bred no dog with EPI"
Fact - we owned Eiko.we were not his breeders
You owned the stud dog did you not? so the above "fact" is more a play on the "fact"
And on your own web site you admit that seven of his (Eiko) progeny went on to develop EPI.
I have no problem with anyone who unwittingly produces a dog with EPI, I have problems with people who twist the facts to suit.
As for your involvement with other forums I really could not care less where you post.
"We have bred no dog with EPI"
Fact - we owned Eiko.we were not his breeders
You owned the stud dog did you not? so the above "fact" is more a play on the "fact"
And on your own web site you admit that seven of his (Eiko) progeny went on to develop EPI.
I have no problem with anyone who unwittingly produces a dog with EPI, I have problems with people who twist the facts to suit.
As for your involvement with other forums I really could not care less where you post.
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