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by simon2629 on 01 July 2010 - 19:07

So far I can see her drive is low, maybe is because of teething, I'll get a squaker to see. She is european show line and a smaller one in her litter, she is only 30LB, I'm working one putting more weight on her. At what age puppy stop growing? I'm afraid she will never be able to get to the idea weight (70lb?).
We have Schutzhund club in houston, but I don't think they will give positive answer before I put more weight on her. And she is very handler soft.

by mkwellborn on 01 July 2010 - 19:07

Don't try to put too much weight on during the first year as the skeletal system is trying to grow. Most vets recommend going off puppy food by 6 months as large breeds have a tendacy to grow too fast on the rich food and this can cause skeletal problems later in life because of the rapid growth. Large breed puppy food can be good too. Just worry about it if your vet is and ask them what they recommend if you already haven't. Also, if you are feeding right chances are if everythings fine w/ your pup the body will catch up just fine on it's own. But ask your vet. :)


by Penny on 01 July 2010 - 20:07

Simon2629  You Say.....

I'm feed her "nature's Variety Instinct Raw Frozen
plus "Royal Canin German 

I just got her.

she traveled 7 days to get here

she loves the raw formula with little nibbles.

in your post above.

Give the little soul some time and relaxation.   The above facts speak for themselves, new to you, travelling 7 days to get to you, differing diet  etc etc

The nly other thing I would say is that to feed R.C. and raw feed together isnt a good idea as they are digested very differently and in different times... therefore, she wont get so hungry as to really seem to appreciate her food perhaps.  also Royal Canin is a complete food - so why feed a complete food and add to it.  Give her the raw and chopped boiled veg or the brands of veg that you can buy to go with raw food.

I agree that get her assessed is a good thing by trainers for prey drive, but not now.   Let her think about things and come around on her own with no presure for a little while.

Good luck.    Mo.

by mkwellborn on 01 July 2010 - 20:07

I'm sure she'll fill out just right for her. Hey, she may not be the perfect dog but we love and understand and alot of hard work she can become really good. You said you were getting her for family protection. I'm sure with the proper training for her temperment she can be built to accomplish the minimum. If you have her in a home environment esp. with small kids you may end up feeling more grateful that you didn't get a high-drive sport dog and that you ended up with a calmer one. I agree with Penny. Give her time! :)

charlie319

by charlie319 on 01 July 2010 - 20:07

She traveled 7 days??????  A week long trek will stress anyone, and a 5 month old puppy is the equivalent of a child...  I recently bought a pup from Michigan and had it crated and flown to KC...  Total travel time, including car trips, less than 10 hours. Cost of crate about $110.00, cost of flight about $310.00.  Worth every penny in lessening the effects of transitioning from her birthplace and littermates to my home and my other dog.

Give your pup a few weeks to get aclimated to her new surroundings,  Play a lot with her and use lots of praise to build up her confidence in her surroundings.

Don't worry so much about the weight, and focus more on the kind of weight.  Feed her well, but make sure she gets the exercise needed to turn that nutrition into muscle.  Also, if you changed her diet, she may have deveolped diarrea which may have contributed to her weight loss...

It is a new puppy, and has already gone through a lot of stressors.  Luckily, it is a ressilient breed.   Be patient.

troublelinx

by troublelinx on 02 July 2010 - 04:07

 I know the feeling.
I am a fan of the working line.  And even still I ended up with a dog with a wee bit of dud but not a total dud.
Long story short the breeder bought her back (1st right of refusal)
My feelings are that if you are not happy with the pup try it again, get another. 
It's better to get a dog that you have to tone down; not one that you have to build up.  That is if you plan to do protection. 
Give her a moment to get use to her surroundings then see if she bounces back.
My honest feelings are that especially being high lines you are constantly going to have to build her up and she may run out of steam during the work.  this is not a highly driven puppy.
Understanding that pups need much rest, high drive dogs run around supercharged at times.  If he/she is never like this then she may not be what you are looking for.  Does the puppy chase anything moving like your pants legs when you walk?

Doberdoodle

by Doberdoodle on 02 July 2010 - 05:07

She's only 5 months old.  I have no idea what it's like to own a lazy dog, I have 3 Malinois and also 1 working lines GSD puppy from Von Fulk Kennel, she is AS active as the Malinois, the day she arrived she was immediately outgoing.  Just the other day I was using the Shop Vac and she was jumping on it, curious about it!  They are all busy-bodies.  They do not tire, no matter what.  It's exhausing.  They take 30 minute breaks and they are back at it.  They are not scared of anything, they are die-hard players.  LOL.  Anyway, have you tried playing prey-games with her?  Like toys or a flirt pole?  Maybe you have yet to see her personality.

For protection, you'll have to have her evaluated when she is a little older.  Shey may or may not have what it takes.  What is her breeding background, are the parents protection-trained?

I would not be feeding the raw WITH the kibble.  They digest at different rates.  Royal Canin is also not a "super-premium" brand, it's only a "premium" brand, but not as good quality as many other dog food kibbles.  I would not buy it myself.  If I were to feed kibble, Orijen is good.  If underweight, multiple small meals a day is best.  Like 4 small meals.  You have to build weight slowly b/c if you overload the body with food it won't work out well.  The Nature's Variety is great, but I know it can be pricey, at least for larger dogs.  You can supplement the Nature's Variety with meat you buy yourself.  It is a good food, already has the organs and ground bone and vitamins.


by Jeff Oehlsen on 02 July 2010 - 11:07

 You got a show dog and are suprised at the fact that the dog is lazy ? They just have to run about a ring and be freakishly weird looking. 

I would get another dog, and yes, they are a commodity for whoever said that. I really doubt that this one is going to protect you.

Too many pet people on here. They will try and convince you that you are the devil for wanting a dog that has an actual value to your family, not a moving stuffed toy. 

Get rid of the lazy fuck, and get a dog that works. There is no reason for a pup to be that retarded at 5 months. Most are such a pain in the ass at that age. Have I mentioned send the thing back and get another dog ?? LOL

I am in San Antonio, if you are ever down here, let me know.

AmbiiGSD

by AmbiiGSD on 02 July 2010 - 11:07

I miss my hearthrug...send her to me!

by mkwellborn on 02 July 2010 - 15:07

She may still be recovering from her jet lag so to speak and adjusting to her new pack. She might just not be sure of herself yet. Not to say that she'll ever be a hard, high-drive dog. She may not ever be. But there could be a slight improvement. If you are not wanting to competition Schutzhund you could still be fine. You know drive can be built, at least to a certain extent. Every dog has different limits and yours may be very limited but there can be hope! And you said she was soft. I would think if you were planning on doing hardcore protection work you would've gone for a DDR with proven parents and not a Showline. Anyway, I'm not an expert but drive can be built to a certain degree and you could join a local SDA club and do Schutzhund training for personal protection or hire a trainer and possibly end up with a dog that will do basic guard work: bark and threaten someone enough to scare them away. They might not knock someone down with a lot of force and clamp down with iron jaws but hey. Most people aren't going to go far enough with a barking lunging dog to find out!! lol I think a website that has a wealth of sound information and great products and training videos (if you haven't already heard about it) is www.leerburg.com . There are videos for sale on building drive and focus (even ones for puppies) and there are free detailed articles as well. And as I said, local clubs and trainer. But all of this in due time since she is still a pup. It sounds like you want to know up front, right now if she will be everything you hope for. Even people that breed their own dogs don't know what the exact outcome will be at the start but as I said earlier there are ways you can ensure you get something close to what you are looking for such as researching bloodline and titles and finding a line that has met the expectations you have for the dog you want. Are you wanting to use her for serious competition ?

And a side note: A lot of reputable breeders temperment test their pups to match them up with what the owner is looking for. Was this done for you??





 


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