Check out the feet - Page 2

Well, I hope so, because my sable girl has it. 

$600?

It might make a good pet, but seems a bit expensive.

As with everything, it is always a matter of personal preference of what is acceptable in a pet puppy and what not. The price of $ 600 is absolutely fair for the above puppy, provided it comes with AKC limited registration and especially since she comes out of titled and breed surveyed parents. Other so called breeders sell puppies for more out of crappy parents with not titles, show ratings and often only "prelimed" hips. This puppy here has white socks which I do not think will fade (wasn't there a thread not too long ago where a breeder dyed these socks to conceal them?). White toes are very common and I want to say that 60 to 70% of puppies have them and they will fade away. If toes are still white at the time of 4 to 5 months, they will stay white - a sign of fading pigmentation, just like pink gums.
White chest spots are also common. According to Little (1957), a different "spotting gene" is responsible for that. If they are small and not disturbing the overall appearance, I have no problems with that. Our sable Arlett male had a big blaze but it blended in perfectly with his sable pattern. My black puppy Uschi has a small one too and we have to see how it changes. My husband and daughter wanted to cut it short with scissors but I like it. It fits her sweet and outgoing personality.
Here she is as an 8 week old with her white spot (excuse the nasty ole Jolly ball):


And as a 5 month old in the February snow (the spot on the chest is still present - the white stuff in her face is snow, lol):


Here is an excerpt of the current FCI standard which permits these chest spots:
Pigment

Black with reddish brown, brown, tan to light-grey markings. Solid black, grey with darker overcast, black saddle and mask. Inconspicuous small white chest markings, as well as lighter pigment on the inside of the legs is permitted, but not desirable. All dogs, no matter what their color, must have black noses.

Missing mask, light to white markings on the chest and inner leg sides, light toenails, and a red tail tip are signs of faulty pigmentation. Undercoat has a slight grey cast. White is not permissible.

Yes Silbersee, about that dying-the-feet business. I expect to see lots more whitefooted puppies coming along because of it. Buyers would have no idea that the dam and sire actually have white feet too, especially if they just look at a bunch of titles. Yet one more reason to NOT be fooled by titles and to refuse to buy a puppy from parents they haven't actually inspected.

Very interesting that the chest spot is a whole 'nother gene!!!

Tiny white chest spot is no biggie- the rest is a sign of bad/worse things to come in the pigmentation department.

Really? Is that true? 60-70% of puppies have white toes, Silbersee? Scout's honor, I have never ever seen even one with my own eyes- only pictures. Is there a certain line you're saying this happens commonly in? I guess I've never seen any pups except pretty high quality working lines. Very tiny white spot (really not a spot so much as just a few stray white hairs) I have seen a few times, but never a speck of white anywhere else, and certainly NEVER a light toenail.

Am I that sheltered? LOL

What are ya'll talking about? This much white will never completely go away!

This pup will probably be sold with full breeding papers, and the white isnot only on the toes but most of both front feet and the back toes.  The pup should be sold only with limited papers regardless of pedigree.

Not being cruel but realistic.  She will probably make a fine dog just not a breeder.

As far as the white - my bet is that there is no way that it will disappear from the front.  If the breeder believes it will, let him guarantee it.  (HE WILL NEVER DO IT!!!!!!!!!).

Tuff

The color of the feet wouldn't bother me as much as the flatness, and lack of pastern angle.  Dogs work isn't effected by  their color, but feet being properly constructed does.  Also a very steep croop.

In my limited knowledge, I also do not believe that much white will not completely go away.
My German bred showline bitch had white on her front feet and a few white toes in the back, along with a small patch of white on her chest. Her nails were all black but I was bothered by all that white. When I came on here a couple of years ago asking about that, I was told most of it would most likely go away and I could still show her. All the white on her chest and front feet went away, she still has two white toes in the back. I'm attaching pictures of when she was 8 weeks old and one from yesterday, at two years old. (I was at work and it was a horrible attemp at stacking her, I still haven't gotten a single stacked picture that does her justice LOL So please ignore that, just wanting to share the difference.) I know what she is supposed to stand like, I just can't get it :-) Anyway you can see the white that remained on her back toes. 
So does that mean that I cannot show her, or that when I try to get her breed surveryed she will be disqualified? Just curious... Thanks in advance, Stacy





 

Again, let me say this is not the typical white you see on well bred pups. 

I have a 6 month old working bred male that is Black and Tan and when he was born he had a nickle sized white star on his chest (not unusual).  By 5 months it was gone, again, not unusual.

What we are discussing here are potentially serious faults.  The white on the front feet is really serious and I suspect the feet will always retain some white. I would consider this to be a cropout gene and would expect it to reproduce. Therefore, eliminating this pup as a breeder.

Count your blessings and train the pup as a pet or to work or whatever and enjoy it, not all dogs are meant to be breeders.  I have a Female that is our family pet that is 100% DDR working stock, Father Sch3 and Mom Sch2.  She had reproductive problems and we never got a litter but she is a true blessing albeit an expensive one     By the way she she is 5 and is an accomplished SAR Dog, Therapy Dog, and Protection Dog.  Heck she is worth a MILLION DOLLARS.

Tuff