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Jyl

by Jyl on 08 February 2010 - 01:02

I know people that are feeding this food and they have never had any issues.

I am feeding the Taste of the Wild Feline and the cats look great! They love the food and their coats are awesome.

by SitasMom on 08 February 2010 - 14:02

We feed TOTW fish to my puppy, she likes it, her fur gleams and she has too much energy. The rest of my pack gets TOTW bison and they are all doing very well.

We also feed fish oil and vitamin/mineral supplement at 1/2 dose written on bottle. We give pro-biotics one week out of each month. All dogs are very healthy and active. No issues with itchy skin or any other issues.

Old 50lb female eats 7/8 cup twice a day and fat
Young 80 lb male eats 4 cups twice a day and still filling out.
Rest of the pack is somewhere in between

We do not give any table scraps or raw meat anymore becasue we're tired of dealing with sick dogs.

Everyone has different ideas, every dog is different. TOTW is not the best or the worst, it just works for us.


dwchastain

by dwchastain on 08 February 2010 - 17:02

I have been feeding my GSD bitch TOTW Wetlands for some time. She started scratching a lot this winter but I do not believe it was related to the food. She lives inside and the problem appears to have been dry skin. We added Salmon oil to her diet and she has been fine.


SchaeferhundSchH

by SchaeferhundSchH on 09 February 2010 - 03:02


be careful the fish formula of this food contains Ethoxyquin

http://www.avianweb.com/ethoxyquin.htm

 

Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 09 February 2010 - 03:02

Is'nt this food in a plastic bag ?? Is it possible that toxins from the plastic bag could be leaching into the food ?? Packaging posioning ??  That is why you don't leave water bottles in your hot car . Was it not a plastic , melimine, that was found in the dog food a few years ago that killed off a bunch of dogs ( including 2 of mine ) ?

Whisper

ps, this would explain why many dogs from one city may dye off, if one store left the dog food on a pallet to get hot in the sun etc.

by DDRshep on 09 February 2010 - 06:02

Orijen Fish does not have Ethoxyquin, and a couple of other super premium brands don't either. The dog food industry is very competitive, so price does relate to quality. Orijen, Evo, Wellness, other high end grain free kibble are more expensive than TOTW but higher quality. Breeders and kennel operators like TOTW because it is relatively cheap. If you only have one or two dogs go for the most expensive kibble you can afford.
The highest quality dog food is still human grade raw meat purchased directly from the slaughterhouse. Even raw meat bought from supermarkets can have chemical spray on preservatives.

by DDRshep on 09 February 2010 - 06:02



Jyl

by Jyl on 09 February 2010 - 07:02

SchaeferhundSchH
You wrote...
"be careful the fish formula of this food contains Ethoxyquin"

I looked at the ingredience on the TOTW and did not see where Ethoxyquin was used.?

vtechmandy

by vtechmandy on 09 February 2010 - 16:02


Cross-posted


Mentioning the topic of pet food preservatives seems to cause a lengthy debate in almost any pet-keeping circle, especially if the use of ethoxyquin comes up.

The whole ethoxyquin scare started from a single rumor, which became so blown out of proportion via internet chat forums that it eventually turned into another urban myth.

The only reason that this preservative ever came into question was due to a study performed on rats back in 1987 where the dose level of 5,000 ppm ethoxyquin, which is far higher than approved levels in pet food, suggested a carcinogenic potential. Ethoxyquin has since been blamed for a myriad of problems, none of which have ever been proven.

Considering the outcry over this preservative by dog owners worldwide, one would think that by now there would be a plethora of data/studies that actually proved that this preservative caused at least some type of long-term health issue in pets.

There is not a single documented case where ethoxyquin used at approved levels has been found to cause any type of long term negative health condition in a dog, cat, fish, or otherwise. One would think that with all of the hysterical anti-ethoxyquin crusades that have taken place over the past 20 years or so that at least one non-biased study would be able to prove that this substance can cause serious long term health issues in pets, even when used at appropriate or approved levels. Yet to date, there is not a single shred of scientific evidence that supports such a view.

The fact is that this single preservative has probably saved countless lives of pets from suffering from serious health issues caused by rancid fat.

Without preservatives, the oil found in fish food would become rancid in very short order. What many hobbyists do not understand is that all fish meal-based products will contain ethoxyquin. There is simply no getting around that. The manufacturer may have ethoxyquin listed on their label as a preservative, yet may not even be adding this ingredient at their end.

What most hobbyists fail to understand is that every fish food that uses marine proteins such as Krill, Fish, Shrimp, etc., will contain a small amount of ethoxyquin, as will some fats that are added to the formula. The United States Coast Guard regulations (Subpart 148.04 -9) requires any vessel entering US waters that contains fish meal, to have the fish meal preserved with ethoxyquin. This is required by law for the safety and health issues that can arise if fish meal is not preserved properly. I personally know of no manufacturer that makes their own in-house fish meal on site, which means that if fish meal is being used in a food, any type of pet food, there will be at least a small amount of ethoxyquin in the final formula.

When used accordingly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using ethoxyquin as a preservative. The FDA approved the use of ethoxyquin as a preservative for both humans and pets, and for decades the maximum amount allowed in pet food was 150 PPM.

In July 1997, after assessing the results of the latest study on ethoxyquin, the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine asked that the maximum amount of the preservative be voluntarily reduced to 75 parts per million in complete dog foods. The FDA stated that the earlier limit of 150 ppm "may not provide an adequate margin of safety in lactating female dogs and possibly puppies." The reason being that lactating female dogs generally consume far more food (2-3 times) than non-lactating females, hence an increased level of every substance in any food will occur. The study showed ethoxyquin levels of 150 ppm had no adverse health effects at maintenance levels, but that by reducing the max amount to 75 ppm it would create an additional sa

vtechmandy

by vtechmandy on 09 February 2010 - 16:02


safety margin for lactating females and their puppies.


To date, the FDA has found no scientific or medical evidence that ethoxyquin used at approved levels is injurious to human or animal health. Also, the FDA has found no documentation of the claims of harm to any animal. Not even one.

Please keep in mind that almost everything and anything can become toxic at high enough levels, including fat-soluble vitamins. No nutritionist would recommend completely eliminating vitamin A, B, D, E and K from the diet just because high levels can be toxic, yet this exact type of logic is what's used when most people discuss preservatives such as ethoxyquin. When used in small amounts to prevent rancidity, preservatives are valuable and important components of the diet.





 


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