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by mooonie on 30 January 2010 - 14:01
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I haven't quite managed to find the "reply to" option here. Thank for fixing my mess.
The Golden in the photo is a bitch. She is so far outside of her breed standards it's not funny. Ginny, my red princess.
Deep dark red with a show coat. Very powerful in and out of the water.
The larger, overly muscular size in the Golden Retriever is something that I've been seeing a lot of here especially in foster/rescue.
The ones that are going to get really large, do so quickly but they don't mature quickly. It's not uncommon for a Golden to still be a little on the thick side until the age of 3. It's also not uncommon for a pheasant hunter to take his bitch out hunting after she's run along side the car for a couple of miles. Then, they calm down enough to listen to the hunter.
In that breed, the bitch is the more independent and the one likely to want to hunt.
Ginny is 95 pounds of solid muscle. Honey stands, from her top line, a good 5 inches taller, longer than Gin. She is a beast and that's why the neighborhood kids are scared to death of her. Very gentle natured, never a problem leaving the fenced yard, we still had a neighbor problem that required us to take down our nice split rail cedar fence and put up an eight foot one.
They wanted us to get rid of her because they were so afraid of her and they couldn't control their 9 yr old son who'd been teasing our dogs ever since he could walk to the fence line. All the dogs barked at this kid. I'd catch him doing stuff like throwing rocks at them and the parents are in a serious state of denial. So, big tall fence now.
Honey wasn't going anywhere and now they can enjoy an ugly 8 foot tall, pine, dog earred fence that is NOT going to be stained nice for their their viewing pleasure.
Honey got trained fast. She behaves like a dream. She loves to talk. But unlike the warm and fuzzy looking Goldens, she doesn't care to suck up to other people outside the family. She sits by my side when I stop to talk to a neighbor, sits and watches. The Stare.
The other reason I'd like to find the breeder is, I would imagine that they might like to see how well she turned out.
Bobbie
I haven't quite managed to find the "reply to" option here. Thank for fixing my mess.
The Golden in the photo is a bitch. She is so far outside of her breed standards it's not funny. Ginny, my red princess.
Deep dark red with a show coat. Very powerful in and out of the water.
The larger, overly muscular size in the Golden Retriever is something that I've been seeing a lot of here especially in foster/rescue.
The ones that are going to get really large, do so quickly but they don't mature quickly. It's not uncommon for a Golden to still be a little on the thick side until the age of 3. It's also not uncommon for a pheasant hunter to take his bitch out hunting after she's run along side the car for a couple of miles. Then, they calm down enough to listen to the hunter.
In that breed, the bitch is the more independent and the one likely to want to hunt.
Ginny is 95 pounds of solid muscle. Honey stands, from her top line, a good 5 inches taller, longer than Gin. She is a beast and that's why the neighborhood kids are scared to death of her. Very gentle natured, never a problem leaving the fenced yard, we still had a neighbor problem that required us to take down our nice split rail cedar fence and put up an eight foot one.
They wanted us to get rid of her because they were so afraid of her and they couldn't control their 9 yr old son who'd been teasing our dogs ever since he could walk to the fence line. All the dogs barked at this kid. I'd catch him doing stuff like throwing rocks at them and the parents are in a serious state of denial. So, big tall fence now.
Honey wasn't going anywhere and now they can enjoy an ugly 8 foot tall, pine, dog earred fence that is NOT going to be stained nice for their their viewing pleasure.
Honey got trained fast. She behaves like a dream. She loves to talk. But unlike the warm and fuzzy looking Goldens, she doesn't care to suck up to other people outside the family. She sits by my side when I stop to talk to a neighbor, sits and watches. The Stare.
The other reason I'd like to find the breeder is, I would imagine that they might like to see how well she turned out.
Bobbie
by DebiSue on 30 January 2010 - 19:01
Oh I beg to differ on the bitch not being overweight!! That pic of her dirpping wet shows she is carrying a great deal of extra weight on her. Please cut her food back and get her some regular exercise. You shouldn't be able to see her ribs but you should be able to feel them easily. I bet she could drop 20 lbs and you still not see a rib. Do right by her and get her in shape. Going over a jump or wall with that kind of weight would ruin her joints.
Thanks for taking her in. She is a beauty!
Deb
Thanks for taking her in. She is a beauty!
Deb
by mooonie on 30 January 2010 - 19:01
She's been to the Vet. The Vet is not concerned with her weight as he was able to examine her through her very dense coat.
We live in Minnesota. When she puts on a coat early in the fall, it's quite a coat.
Her real life Vet says she in within proportions for her frame. I'll make a point of correcting the Vet about her weight.
If anything, she needs a good furmination in 6 weeks. Thanks for your advice.
We live in Minnesota. When she puts on a coat early in the fall, it's quite a coat.
Her real life Vet says she in within proportions for her frame. I'll make a point of correcting the Vet about her weight.
If anything, she needs a good furmination in 6 weeks. Thanks for your advice.
by Jenni78 on 30 January 2010 - 22:01
She is not dangerously fat, no. We (working dog folk) keep our dogs very thin; it's much healthier. There are no health risks associated w/being 5lbs underweight ;-)
Most American pets are SO overweight that an average dog that we might call chubby looks great to a vet!
If she were mine, I'd let her drop about 15 and see what she looked like. She doesn't look all that heavy in the picture w/her sitting, but I just have a really hard time believing that ANY GSD bitch should be that heavy. My over-standard male who is quite dense in bone (Caleb) is only around 100...and he is absolutely huge.
Mooonie, how tall is she at the withers? That would help us if you could get an approximate reading.
I know how you feel about wanting her history; I'm putting a folder together for each of my puppy buyers so they can have pictures from birth on.
Most American pets are SO overweight that an average dog that we might call chubby looks great to a vet!
If she were mine, I'd let her drop about 15 and see what she looked like. She doesn't look all that heavy in the picture w/her sitting, but I just have a really hard time believing that ANY GSD bitch should be that heavy. My over-standard male who is quite dense in bone (Caleb) is only around 100...and he is absolutely huge.
Mooonie, how tall is she at the withers? That would help us if you could get an approximate reading.
I know how you feel about wanting her history; I'm putting a folder together for each of my puppy buyers so they can have pictures from birth on.
by Two Moons on 31 January 2010 - 00:01
Bobbie,
She's a nice looking Black, but I see white.
What does her vent look like, black or a bit of color?
Yes she's large for a female.
Your best reference will be the AKC papers, hope you locate them.
How old is she now?
The mane looks normal to me in the photo above, again nice looking dog.
Moons.
She's a nice looking Black, but I see white.
What does her vent look like, black or a bit of color?
Yes she's large for a female.
Your best reference will be the AKC papers, hope you locate them.
How old is she now?
The mane looks normal to me in the photo above, again nice looking dog.
Moons.
by mooonie on 31 January 2010 - 14:01
As she has gotten old, some tan is now visable on her legs. Toward her girlie bits, she is white. She is a little over 27" at the point of her front shoulder.
Coming up on the back side of another miserable winter, exercise is always a concern. The temperatures here easily fall to below zero for weeks on end. Salt is used on the roads so paws have to be cleaned so they don't lick it off.
Once the temperatures begin to warm in the daytime to 15F we're out a lot.
She's 5 as of Feb 10th. That part of her paperwork I do remember.
She's so much fun to watch in the field. She responds to the command, Get 'Em, and rounds them up for me. If one wants to lag behind, they get a little nip or nudge on their backside. She can run all day long in the woods and loves it.
She never really leaves my side for long. She keeps coming back to make sure I'm ok.
Before she came, I never had any experience with her kind of mind set. At age of 3, we're deep in the woods with the dark red Golden. A bow and arrow hunter, in camo, came out of his tree stand, walking in our general direction, about a 100 yards out.
She took off and herded him back where he came from and kept him there...doing it just as calm as could be.
She is not without a sense of humor either. When I sprained my foot, she hopped around the house with one of her paws up in the air.
For almost 3 months out of her 5, she lived on other people's patios. Anyplace she could be stashed while trying to find a home for her. She was an emotional mess when she finally got up here to the point where she was afraid to eat around the other dogs.
I fed her out of my mouth...trying to comfort and reassure her.
I'm so grateful that she found her way here.
Her AKC papers meant nothing to me because she was never going to be bred. hmmm maybe the Vet copied them when I took her in with all her paperwork...found out she came up here with a case of Lyme disease.
She was the last of her litter to be sold. I'm curious as to why. Too big for breed standard? I just have questions I'd like to put to her breeder.
As I've gotten older and wiser with rescue puppies...some of these breeders pull the wool pretty good. This last little golden I evaluated and later took into my home, told the buyers...oh the mother is resting in the barn, the sire was off-site.
The story told was...she had a litter of 12, the mother ran out of milk and they had to hand feed the remaining ones.
Uh huh, yeah, right. I have no doubt the dame ate those puppies and the ones remaining were scooped up by the humans for sale to unsuspecting people....another back yard breeder.
Coming up on the back side of another miserable winter, exercise is always a concern. The temperatures here easily fall to below zero for weeks on end. Salt is used on the roads so paws have to be cleaned so they don't lick it off.
Once the temperatures begin to warm in the daytime to 15F we're out a lot.
She's 5 as of Feb 10th. That part of her paperwork I do remember.
She's so much fun to watch in the field. She responds to the command, Get 'Em, and rounds them up for me. If one wants to lag behind, they get a little nip or nudge on their backside. She can run all day long in the woods and loves it.
She never really leaves my side for long. She keeps coming back to make sure I'm ok.
Before she came, I never had any experience with her kind of mind set. At age of 3, we're deep in the woods with the dark red Golden. A bow and arrow hunter, in camo, came out of his tree stand, walking in our general direction, about a 100 yards out.
She took off and herded him back where he came from and kept him there...doing it just as calm as could be.
She is not without a sense of humor either. When I sprained my foot, she hopped around the house with one of her paws up in the air.
For almost 3 months out of her 5, she lived on other people's patios. Anyplace she could be stashed while trying to find a home for her. She was an emotional mess when she finally got up here to the point where she was afraid to eat around the other dogs.
I fed her out of my mouth...trying to comfort and reassure her.
I'm so grateful that she found her way here.
Her AKC papers meant nothing to me because she was never going to be bred. hmmm maybe the Vet copied them when I took her in with all her paperwork...found out she came up here with a case of Lyme disease.
She was the last of her litter to be sold. I'm curious as to why. Too big for breed standard? I just have questions I'd like to put to her breeder.
As I've gotten older and wiser with rescue puppies...some of these breeders pull the wool pretty good. This last little golden I evaluated and later took into my home, told the buyers...oh the mother is resting in the barn, the sire was off-site.
The story told was...she had a litter of 12, the mother ran out of milk and they had to hand feed the remaining ones.
Uh huh, yeah, right. I have no doubt the dame ate those puppies and the ones remaining were scooped up by the humans for sale to unsuspecting people....another back yard breeder.
by Two Moons on 01 February 2010 - 00:02
Well,
she's not a true black, but she is still beautiful and it shouldn't matter.
You'll find those papers one day....lol
Don't be too quick to judge or call people names as there is a whole lot about the dog and the breeder you just don't know.
If you do find them you'll want them to be helpful, so ya gotta be a little more open minded.
Sounds like a fine dog, I have a fondness for Blacks myself.
Best wishes, Moons.
she's not a true black, but she is still beautiful and it shouldn't matter.
You'll find those papers one day....lol
Don't be too quick to judge or call people names as there is a whole lot about the dog and the breeder you just don't know.
If you do find them you'll want them to be helpful, so ya gotta be a little more open minded.
Sounds like a fine dog, I have a fondness for Blacks myself.
Best wishes, Moons.
by mooonie on 01 February 2010 - 00:02
Thank you for your insight.
These GSDs are so different, almost mysterious. I see advertisements for litters and I melt. I watch them in videos and marvel at them.
So regal, so majestic.
I probably won't be happy until I have made the committment to have one that I've picked out and have the chance to experience those wonderful puppy times.
I'm just a sucker for those eyes of theirs.
Bobbie
These GSDs are so different, almost mysterious. I see advertisements for litters and I melt. I watch them in videos and marvel at them.
So regal, so majestic.
I probably won't be happy until I have made the committment to have one that I've picked out and have the chance to experience those wonderful puppy times.
I'm just a sucker for those eyes of theirs.
Bobbie
by GSDtravels on 01 February 2010 - 01:02
He's hooked. Welcome to the club, we're all addicts
by GSDXephyr on 01 February 2010 - 20:02
If I'm reading correctly, she's been with you about 4 years, and the sitting down pictures was the first year you had her, and the second pictures (all wet) was a few years later? Her weight in the first pictures sitting looks really nice. Do you have vet records from then on what her weight was at that time? I think I would want to check that out and keep that as my target weight for this girlie. She is pretty tall at 27" isn't she! She's got a lovely face.
Heather
Heather
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