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blair built gsd

by blair built gsd on 02 February 2010 - 07:02

I just think you can get just as good of a dog here in the US. If you live here i cant see a reason without haveing a good relationship with a breeder out side the country that anyone should take a chance on a dog by word of mouth anyway.

by mockbam5 on 02 February 2010 - 07:02

I took a chance on a dog by mouth. The breeder is Dirk Wortmann he is from osterberger land kennel in Germany. I will tell you all how the puppy is in 2 days. I'm about %70 percent nervous and %30 percent excited.

steve1

by steve1 on 03 February 2010 - 13:02

mockbam
Good Luck with the Pup Hope he arrives safely and in good shape from the flight and is all you wish for in the Pup
Steve1

Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 03 February 2010 - 23:02


My dogs do have some great bloodlines from imported relatives,

If you are a crappy kennel , word will spread fast, no matter where you live, also the same is true of a good kennel.

I just recently used an East German import, and am so happy with the pup I kept!

I won't ship my pups, cause, what if the people are not totally honest on the other end, and your pup winds up in a puppy-mill or pet shop, I could not sleep at night, not meeting the family who is getting a pup from me.

I think you need to use imports or get a pup from Germany to add to your kennel if you are breeding Shepherds, after all, that's were the breed originated, German bloodlines is just that.

  I would import a pup if I was so inclined, but I am very happy with the imports that are made available in the US.

  Also, American lines are just that...German Shepherd?  American Shepherd?

       You decide.......


CSMHM0

by CSMHM0 on 05 February 2010 - 04:02

Do your homework when selecting your breeder, you can get both good and bad in the US and Germany(and other countries).

A Good Dog is a Good Dog, he doesn't know where he was born.

M

animules

by animules on 05 February 2010 - 15:02

A better chance of finding the bloodlines wanted closer up.

CSMHM0

by CSMHM0 on 05 February 2010 - 22:02

Why is anyone concerned about what country the dog comes from? If you know the pedigree, know the parents, siblings and at least 50 percent of the dogs in the first five generation pedigree, you probably will do fairly well. As an American breeder I would love to find a great dog that meets the standard from another country for one reason---increase the genetic material.
But since we live in America and don't spend any time going to Europe or South America or even Mexico to study the dogs in their kennels, am I supposed to breed in the blind and go by titles, a stamps, fast normals without even knowing the dogs or their littermates?
Sorry, it is a full time studying job keeping up with the dogs in our own country. I am waiting for the person who will import a magnificent prepotent dog to America, and I am certainly not alone in this.
If you are buying a mail order dog and are not a member of an organization (like a police department or guide dog organization) you are asking for trouble in my humble opinion. They have experienced brokers who do know the dogs and its family, and have recourse if the dog is not as advertised. What is a person alone going to do? My advice is buy from a reputable breeder where you can visit his/her kennel and develop a relationship with that person. In 30 years we have had one dog returned because we screen our buyers as good as they screen us. And frankly, the return was one of the best things that came from that person.  Sheila Metz, Lindenhill German Shepherd Dogs, and proud they are American bred.

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 05 February 2010 - 23:02

I don't know why or why not buy here or there. You can get good dogs in USA, you can get good dogs overseas, and you can get bad dogs in the same places.

Countries where the dog is coming from, don'tmatter. The dog matters. You think the dog has a concept of borders or lol passports? A tree to pee on is the same to him in any country. Research the breeders and individual dogs. I don't care if I have to go to, say, Australia to get a dog that I want or to get it from Bob 3 streets down from me, again, if it's a dog that I want.

I think there is a certain level or "marketing", mustique and my dickis bigger than your dick. Instead of saying, I got the dog from a breeder in Ohio, it sure sounds better to us unwashed masses when the dog owner casually drops - Oh, I imported him from Eastern Europe or, Oh, I flew the dog here from Germany.... WOW! Germany! Sure is better than a dog from friggin' French Lick, Indiana!

Same reason people get Lamborghinis ir Ferraris or Corvettes, instead of a pickup truck or Toyota Camry.

Now, peoplethat REALLY know dogs, I mean REALLY know - will actualy go to those places and import dogs. But,THOSE dogs are definitely worldclass dogs,not just A dog, but THE dog.

ShadyLady

by ShadyLady on 06 February 2010 - 01:02

Some people will not buy an animal that they can't be in person to see, but if there is an animal you want, be it a dog, a horse, a parrot...and you cannot go to that place, what do you do?

Not all Americans buy outside the country. Again, it's not about what country you buy in that determines if you will get screwed over or not!

There is always, always, always risk. If more people took their time and did more research, there would be less heartache.

I've bought many dogs from inside the US, to Canada, Germany, Yugoslavia & Belgium. I've had some lemons, but my very best experiences were because I took more time and talked to people who had dogs from these breeders or trainers and judges who knew more details than I could ever find out alone.

The dog world may seem large, but everyone knows someone who knows someone where you can get information and in reality, it's a small world (after all - haha).


steve1

by steve1 on 06 February 2010 - 13:02

As Shady Lady says on a board like this there is someone you can ask if buying from a certain country. You can always drop that person a PM and ask if they know of the breeder in question, They have nothing to lose or gain by not helping you out
Then once that bit is past get to know about the Kennel and breeder do not be frightened to ask frank questions for if the person gwets angry or gibs then you know what to do give them a polite thank you and have no more to do with that kennel.
In other words do the home work first and anything which you need to know ask For myself other than Belgium i do not know many breeders to say who is who, So i would never advise anyone on them
Steve1





 


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