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Pharaoh

by Pharaoh on 27 December 2009 - 02:12

Good luck with that.

You must think I am lying or delusional.  I am neither.  I am also not the only one.

Michele

Lief

by Lief on 27 December 2009 - 11:12

I think the moderate heritability refers to the fact  the diease can be modified by enviroment and while its known two normals can produce dysplasia its also known that breeds with the highest rates of EX have the lowest rates of dysplasia  I'm not sure Pennhip will get more popular they were in such dire straits a few years back it was offered for sale to OFA  who turned it down though a couple board members were in favor of it. The other problem is people say its not subjective but they are only comparing to the very small number that they have in the database  if any breed were to suddenly increase by several thousand that would change the status of any dog, that dog may no longer have better hips than X percentage of dogs, the fact elbow dysplasia is such a concern may have doomed Pennhip since people would rather get hips and elbows in one fell swoop even then people are only getting elbows done at half the rate of hips   Oi Vey!


by Jago on 28 December 2009 - 14:12

"Has that actually been proven yet? To the best of my knowledge, it's still a theory. I still won't be from parents that weren't OFA'd, but I don't believe it's been proven that CHD is genetic."
 

LOL Seriously Xeph, are you for real? What rock have you been hiding under to think that crock of shite?

"It is well to remember the lines of the philosopher Hippocrates in 360 BC when he said “There are in fact two things:- science and opinion. The former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.”

Here here DP, shame some people would rather be ignorant than gain knowledge.

T

 


Janette

by Janette on 28 December 2009 - 17:12

For whatever it's worth...we have had over 2 dozen dogs Pennhip and none had any sickness or lameness. The Vet is suppose to be schooled to do this procedure. But they are humans too and mistakes can be made. We found Pennhip to be a useful tool in helping to make breeding decisions. OFA was just too opinionated for us.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 December 2009 - 21:12

For those of you who are questioning the value of PennHip, I strongly recommend you read Fred Lanting's book on Canine Hip Dysplasia: http://www.fredlanting.org/freds-books/  He has been studying this problem since 1966, and knows more about it than most veterinarians.

OFA is just NOT accurate enough. I found this out the hard way, when my 2 year old bitch failed the OFA exam. She has 3 generations of her pedigree that are dysplasia-free, with either the SV a-stamp or OFA.

Lief

by Lief on 28 December 2009 - 21:12

either way they are just denoting phenotype not genotype so you are going to get dysplastic dogs from  normal to normal Pennhip is not going to change that and with the low rate of compliance if it was going to catch on it would have by now





 


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