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by Royal1 on 19 May 2010 - 06:05
It's not just I let it happend, the pup was growing with an Adult male separate, my pup was able to see adult male from other side of the fence, is just when he was very young, I was trying to make my adult male to be freindly, but he will NOT - always mean and show teeth - he did not wanted a pup to be near him, so I kept them seperate, but once the pup got older then adult male started to hop on him, I keep them seperate!
by Vixen on 19 May 2010 - 22:05
Hello Royal, Feel concerned by your comments regarding the interaction between the three of you, and yes it is about the interaction of the THREE of you! Your dogs are naturally thinking the way of the Pack. But the impression is that your adult male knows that you are not in charge or in control. Now don't blame your dog, blame yourself, he can only learn from good appropriate training and the energy/determination, plus an understanding of the way the dog thinks and interaction between you.
Why should your older male; "Learn and give respect to the younger male"? He has no reason too, he already knows that he is the more dominant. and your younger one (at present) is acknowledging this. He is not a "loser", he is responding appropriately to the adult male. Problems could materialise if later, he decides to challenge the older one!!!
You do not want a war-zone or either of your dogs injured. Is there a Dog Club anywhere nearby (that comes recommended) that you could get help with your dogs? If you could raise your Status over both these dogs, (because even your younger one will have more respect for your older one, rather than you). By raising your Status you will start to gain the control you desperately need. It is not about only re-acting when a problem occurs, it is learning to maintain order and leadership generally. Then both dogs take notice of you! They will also be relaxed knowing they have Leadership to trust and follow.
Kind Regards,
Vixen
Why should your older male; "Learn and give respect to the younger male"? He has no reason too, he already knows that he is the more dominant. and your younger one (at present) is acknowledging this. He is not a "loser", he is responding appropriately to the adult male. Problems could materialise if later, he decides to challenge the older one!!!
You do not want a war-zone or either of your dogs injured. Is there a Dog Club anywhere nearby (that comes recommended) that you could get help with your dogs? If you could raise your Status over both these dogs, (because even your younger one will have more respect for your older one, rather than you). By raising your Status you will start to gain the control you desperately need. It is not about only re-acting when a problem occurs, it is learning to maintain order and leadership generally. Then both dogs take notice of you! They will also be relaxed knowing they have Leadership to trust and follow.
Kind Regards,
Vixen
by Royal1 on 20 May 2010 - 03:05
Thanks!
My mistake was when I got this new baby male GSD, I started don't care much about the older male GSD and most of my attention was given to younger male.....Even I was always nice to older male.
My mistake was when I got this new baby male GSD, I started don't care much about the older male GSD and most of my attention was given to younger male.....Even I was always nice to older male.
by steve1 on 20 May 2010 - 13:05
No1 mistake you never let any dog you own to be favoured in any way, if you own Dogs all should be treated the same with the same love and firmness from you nothing is special in any one Dog, they pick up on it very fast,
But most of all the Dogs look to you as there leader, and that you must be
Steve1
But most of all the Dogs look to you as there leader, and that you must be
Steve1
by Sugarplum on 20 May 2010 - 21:05
worrying stuff indeed. you talk about your dogs like you're talking about humans.
by leciesters doghandler on 21 May 2010 - 09:05
take it as you ''dont care'' for your older gsd you will get rid of him sooner or later ........hmm
by charlie319 on 21 May 2010 - 16:05
Going back to what Adi Ibrahimbegovic stated; Are you looking to get the pup into SchH or any other sport? If so, you do not wish to undermine his selfconfidence by letting your older male be the Alpha... I'm trying to avoid being preachy here, but you should keep them both crated and let them come out to do play with you, train, eliminate or go for walks. I would recommend that you read up on "Pack Protocol" and maybe go see Ed Frawley's website (he has a lot of free advice and not free DVD's and books) that would get you off on the right foot.
If the pup is young, it is ok to nurture it. However, you should not neglect your older dog.
If the pup is young, it is ok to nurture it. However, you should not neglect your older dog.
by Royal1 on 22 May 2010 - 02:05
Good news, the older male finaly no longer being mean to young male, he simply ignores the young male!
by muldoon on 22 May 2010 - 21:05
by magic i assume?............
or maybe you just got the dog to read the advice on this thread
or maybe you just got the dog to read the advice on this thread
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