Breeder Rights? Breeder Greed? - Page 19

Well then I would advise telling the new people that the dogs are welcome back at any time.

Deanna, 

Well, then there is the difference, LOL! I have NO DOUBT.  Hope your day is as sunny and nice as mine!

Incidently, HAVE the caretakers of the dogs stated that they wish to adopt their charges? I recall Wanda stating that all the dogs were safe, in good hands and well-cared for, but I DON'T recall her saying whether she and/or the other friend wanted to KEEP one or more of the dogs THEMSELVES, as their own dog(s).

And unless the deceased woman's will specifically bequethed each dog to a specific individual, it's quite premature to refer to Wanda, or anyone else, as the 'owners' of any of these dogs; until the estate is settled, the dogs remain part of the estate.

I wanted to put in another $.02, a day or so ago, but work & flooding kept me from it.

I don't think anyone initially started out wanting to bash Molly. I, personally, think Molly breeds some really nice dogs, & I would be the last person to condemn a breeder for standing up for their pups. I have been supportive of breeders who tried to remove their dogs from bad situations. And it's very commendable to try to help someone avoid a situation like cphudson's was; how very awful, & I sincerely hope that cphudson's life & health is better now. I know that were I to be in an accident, I would worry about my husband & my dogs ceaselessly.

I think, & have said, that it was the manner in which this was carried out that was offensive. Perhaps, since I work with bereaved folks on a routine basis, I am a bit more sensitive to their needs, & a bit protective of the bereaved as well. The psychic injury they have suffered is as real & as painful as an actual wound. Many people can bury their pain with their loved one, but it tends to surface again in the form of anger, guilt, illness, or some other difficulty. Caring for the dogs of someone you care about, especially if you were their student, would be very healing, & a very nice way to revisit the closeness felt to that person. Were that person to tire at some point of caring for the dogs, then would have been the appropriate time to step up & offer to care for them.

I think the changes in the 'story' along the line simply reflect the realization of how it looked from the other side, & a need to avoid judgement. But, still, you can't go back in time, or undo what's been done. Someone who really only cared for the welfare of the dogs might still send a note along to the OP, you know, a little apology, not for worrying about the dogs, but for coming across as being uncaring to the people, & still offer to be a back up plan for them should they ever need it. It takes a big person to eat a little crow & still smile. But those are the people who can feel good about the fact that they have done everything in their power to aid the pups they bred, even if their contract is moot, just by being nice.

Let me try to explain like this...my mentor taught me that when your dog is straining on the leash, the more you pull against them, the more effort they put into pulling. And that when you let the leash loose, they have nothing to pull against, they stop pulling. I tried it, it worked. None have ever run away, they always looked back to see what happened to the resistance, & came back to my side. Stop pulling, let go, crouch down, & offer a treat. Maybe then you'll get to at least be updated on how the dogs are doing. Try kindness first. It really works.
Best wishes, jackie harris

Jackie, You post is the most intelligent advice given in this situation. Showing true compassion and concern for the dogs means alot more in my eyes then a blunt " My contract says they should be returned to me and I want them now."  If Molly had handled this in a different manner, it might have been seen in a different light. Personally I would have never posted it on any forum, it should have been resolved in a different way like you said.

Exactly. But I'm sure we all know dog people who are much better with dogs than people. I'd be livid enough to come back and haunt the ass that treated my bereaved family and friends this way.

Just gives me the warm fuzzies that MOlly's only lesson here was to make her contract legally binding next time.

Kalibeck, I also agree with your statement. The last of my post was missing, But basically wanted to say the same thing as you nicely stated. While I was not pleased with the care my 2 dogs mentioned before received & my older rescues,
I was so pleased + relieved that my others were in happy homes with my family / friends. I couldn't go visit them at the time, but they sent my pictures & video's of the dogs. It was obvious the dogs were well cared for & very happy with my family. They all became attached to them also. My family did get free young full trained imported WL GSD's, but that was never the issue though just their welfare. We never asked for them back since in their minds my family were making a commitment for the life time of the dogs. They were happy & so were our dogs, they are still with them to this day. It still nice to get pic's & go visit them.

I would recommend you to request pictures / video's of the dogs for your peace of mind. Offer a open invitation to take the dogs back in the future if they are ever in the position of not able to care for them again.
Work on building a new friendly relationship with your dogs offspring's new owners, so you'll have the chance to be kept updated on their progress. As long as the dogs are alright & happy the rest doesn't matter.
When I've gone into the hospital again, the people I request to care for my dogs are the very ones I would trust to take care of my dogs if something should happen to me in the future. Rest assured if the dog's owner
trusted her friends enough to care for her dogs, home, & estate then I'm sure they are well cared for even now. It takes a lot of trust & faith in person to give them access to all your property & love ones.

that is a nice thought.  Unfortunately that will be difficult since the "new owners" are not known to me.  I can only hope and guess that the dogs are in homes appropriate for their needs, where they will be happy.  and that's exactly why this will never happen again, for the sake of  my dogs and my own state of mind.  Being told they are in good hands is not the same as knowing this as fact.

and for all of you drama-queens who think you know the whole story - you don't.  You have no idea what I said or didn't say, who I spoke to and how I spoke to them - or how they spoke to me.  Make up your own stories to create more drama, that's what this site is all about isn't it?  Nevermind the facts - drama and fiction is much  more fun.

molly

My favorite kind of drama to make up is the kind you said in your other posts.