Breeders, show us what you have produced. - Page 19

It's inevitable. Reading the writings of illiterates so often make you forget what's actually correct. Used to happen to my mom when she taught 5th grade English (that's a sentence fragment, and I'm not fixing it). She had to ask me how to spell things all the time because reading so many misspellings made them seem normal!

But anyway, yes, there are drugs.

Now, back to puppies and sniping.

I'm not a breeder, but if I were to buy a pup, I'd take one of Jeff's any day also.

I'd trust him to tell me exactly what to expect.  Titles do not tell me what I want to know, as what I want in a dog is different than what a person would want just for sport.

Anyway, ditto what Jenni and Rik said.

- Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

 

 

A reasonable intelligent person would expect someone who gives an opinion about a dog, dogs, breeding program or bloodlines, to know at least some of what they are talking about from personal experience (breeding, training, titling, accomplishing anything at all with dogs you have bred, raised, trained, titled).  Jeff gives his opinions about me/my dogs/my program when he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.  He doesn't like me - who cares.  I don't like him.  Who cares.  I do care when someone like him sits on his rear in front of a computer touting all of his vast knowledge to people who believe that what he says is coming from experience and not just from uneducated opinion.

Facts are facts.  Jeff  has never bred anything that has done anything at all - no titles, no nothing.  Jeff has never competed a dog in any sport at all successfully.  None.  never.  Jeff has also never bred a litter responsibly.  People who care about the breed care about breeders who don't care and thumb their noses like Jeff does, at the rules of breeding responsibly.  No, titles are not everything.   But breeding underage un-health checked untitled dogs is not responsible breeding.  Buy a pup from Jeff  because he doesn't care what people think - ok dokey.  Buy a pup from Jeff because he knows what he's doing - wrong.  He doesn't know what he's doing.  He's never done anything to learn by experience.

Facts are facts.  There are not many breeders in this country who follow ALL the rules as I do, AND who keep their own dogs from their own litters and raise/train/title their own puppies.  I do.  One of the very few.  And there's nothing to lie about or feel ashamed about. 

This thread is great for people to show off the dogs they have bred, absolutely.  But listening to Jeff or anyone like him who is an obvious internet expert, armchair expert or whatever else you want to call him - mistake.

Jenni - what have you done with your dogs before breeding them?  Nothing, I guess.  Just like most other breeders - it's a free country and you can do what you like.   The buyers looking for top quality dogs from responsible experienced breeders who actually train dogs to titles will know what they are looking for in a breeder.  Pet owners will look for the $800 pups from untitled untested parents.  Carry on.

ps Jenni - can you give actual examples of any of my dogs that "suck"?  Or testimonials from owners who are not happy with their Eichenluft pup?  I'd be interested in finding out which ones you are talking about, from your own personal experience of course, not from "internet experts" who don't know what they are talking about from personal experience.

 

 

I really enjoy Jeffs videos! I think he did a great job with Buko even if he didn't pass at nationals!  Points are not what is most important...

One question...

Isn't Ringsport alot more challenging than Schutzund?

 

 

KellyJ, I am ITCHING to find out. It sure is a lot more lively. Not saying schutzhund isn't fine, I'm just sick of it, myself. 

Seems like Ringsport requires a much tougher dog. Seeing Labs,Goldens, and other breeds regularly getting titled in Schuzhund, to me, isnt saying much for the sport.

 

KellyJ, where are you seeing this "regularly"?

yawn. another misinformed set of people.

show me labs/goldens that get regularly titled in schutzhund above club level. yawn.

show me a person that has successfully shown a dog in all 3 phases at a level higher than a club, that will turn around and say that schutzhund is not challenging.

usually ones who spout otherwise are ones who couldn't, for some reason, ever compete higher than the club level.

 

Not regularly, but more than just a few flukes...

 

first you say regularly, now you say "not" regularly.

now show me some irregular appearances of labs/goldens that get titled at the regional/national level. well?