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by gsdstudent on 15 June 2013 - 08:06

booboo; most of us are tired of your online booboo-borishness, more so than the on line experts are tiresome.

by Dobermannman on 15 June 2013 - 09:06

GSDStudent

Who appointed you spokesperson for "most of us"?
Let's wait for someone to post the Shell shots video and see if it shows anything more/different and stop with the personal attacks and comments?

Thomas Barriano

by gsdstudent on 15 June 2013 - 21:06

your favorite baseball team's best hitter strikes out with batters in scoring position, MJ misses a free throw, or a top golfer double bogies, what is the significance? I bet you Ivan B is over it, and planning and training for his next event. I hope Marcus H has it in perspective and moves on. It is a lot to do about very little. Correct me if I am wrong but the blue ray super sleuth sees no meaning to dog sport world but this is one of his crusades? More poop stirring

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 15 June 2013 - 21:06

Gotta see the blu-ray and clear Ebor's good name .. all of those blaming Ebor for missing are the ones stirring the poop .. a learning opportunity about who wins and who loses and how it sometimes isn't about talent after all.

by gsdstudent on 16 June 2013 - 08:06

A true learning experience happens at the trial, at your club training facility, and during your many hours of training  dogs. The difference between first, second and third place is luck. Sometimes good luck and sometimes bad luck. Being on or near the podium is proof of a teams good fortune that weekend. Being on or near the podium often is evidence of a a program which warrants respect. With ''spell check'' I learned nothing on-line today. Well, maybe I learned that I waste too much time here. Off to train.

steve1

by steve1 on 16 June 2013 - 11:06

Mr Bubba
Firstly read again the post of Amanda, She says you cannot see everything and you will never see it on Video the way it is in real life it happens so quickly when a dog goes into the attack. Some dogs slow slightly and change there legs just before take off  but Ebor did not, and the way i see it,
plus if there was very soft or a patch of mud then the dog may have bogged down on its hind legs or slipped on the take off which would then cause the dog to mistime its attack but again it is all guess work. i know in her 3 years of work Gina has missed the Bite some 3 times and she is like lightning over the ground and like Ebor never ever checks, but goes straight in and she does at times come in underneath she is a crafty dog just like the one being talked about but you do not stop to think if the Helper made a mistake or not all you are concerned about is the Dog, and I do not think for one second that Ivan blames the Helper the first thing to go through his and the helpers mind is the Dog okay and not harmed, and the next thing to go through the handlers head is the dogs teeth okay, because when a dog loses its grip on the bite it may damage its teeth and that is the end of the IPO sport for that Dog, hence the facial expression. and in this case both Dog and Helper were fine that is all anyone needs to know who is interested in IPO sport.
You Bubba do it for your own little bit of ego and gratification. Ivan does not need the likes of you to fight his corner but i guess you do little or nothing with your dogs except perhaps breed from them so it gives you a little bit of self importance to think you have scored an home run over the real Sports Guys on this Forum but whatever is seen on any Video, no one will never really know what went wrong. just one other thing where you are jumping the Gun so to speak you say it cost Ebor the Championship, How do you know what Score the Judge would have given Ebor had he held on and completed the sequence, You could not possibly know unless you have the word SAINT in front of Bubba; At this level points are not given away like Sweeties.
Now i must get ready for a Birthday Party, Mine.
Steve1

by gsdstudent on 16 June 2013 - 12:06

steve1; Happy birthday!! many many more! It is not my birthday but I did get a present today for father's day! It is a blueray video of this guy named david blain. He floats on air! he bites quarters in half and then with a magic touch turns the quarter whole again. I watched it over and over, and then in slow motion, and then over and over again. This david blain guy is a wizard! The videos are proof beyond the shadow of any doubt.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 16 June 2013 - 14:06

Blu-ray, blu-ray, blu-ray .. now that many of you are faced with having to admit the truth you are saying the blu-ray is not good enough before you have seen it??  The Shellshot video is my reference and unless someone wants to accuse Shellshots of doctoring the video I suppose it is as good as it gets.  The blu-ray is going to be seen and shown so get used to the idea.  If the weasels who tried to blame Ebor for a helper mistake want to be weasels some more after seeing the blu-ray showing the HD frames then they are just being who they are .. weasels.  If someone has seen the Shellshot HD blu-ray video of Ebor's back half protection please speak up .. I will have my copy next week and I will post it ASAP.  I will compare the presentations given to the top five 2013 AWDF finishers on the back half protection and we will see the truth of what Nance, Zdog, and all of the other "you must believe us because we say so" club members said and that was "Ebor missed and the helper gave the same presentation as he did the others"  versus the HD blu-ray video and see who is telling the truth.

GSD Lineage

by GSD Lineage on 16 June 2013 - 15:06


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by Betty on 16 June 2013 - 15:06

Regardless of who's "fault" it is, I don't see where anyone said Ebor was less of a dog based on this one performance.

I think most people recognize that trial results are just indicative of the dogs performance that day and that there are many many variables.

Just like tracking.  Same general condition, same track layer, but one track can differ greatly in challenges then another.  Would you dissect
the track layer's performance from track to track per scuffing of the track, sharpness of turns, or how much fresh vegetation was on each individual
track?  Perhaps one article was more scented then another?

Perhaps in ob, one dog had more then a distraction from the spectators then another?

For whatever reason Ebor just did not have the best performance for that trial per the judge's interpretation.  It does not make him any less of a dog.
The same dog walked off that field that walked on.










 





 


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