German Shepherds vary in size, color, body shape and appearance from country to country.  I have mostly black or bi-colors based on Czech/DDR breeding lines.  Others have sables or black and tan (red for show people).  There is no one correct shape and color for the breed.  The SV has had both show line and working line dogs for years living under one banner.  The USCA created the scorebook tempest in a teapot by breaking the rules.  The GSDCA-WDA has gone to the WUSV for years and the GSDCA is hosting the WUSV in 2013.  Both have clearly been members of the WUSV and anyone who says different is a liar.  If the USCA does not agree with the SV I suggest that you invade Germany and overthrow the SV and VDH.  Finally the SV and WUSV has set things right by writing the truth in stone and describing the penalties for further childish and selfish acts by the USCA.  If the USCA wants to call the Germans bluff please go ahead.  Your fake breed registry based on rebagged SV papers will disappear.  Screw around with the SV and AKC and see how quickly the FCI cools to your phoney FCI stamp on your scorebooks.  Start your own German Shepherd breed registry and build your Lyle Roetemeyer Taj Mahal in the midwest.  Knock yourself out!!  The rest of the GSD world does not care!  Tell Roetemeyer he is no longer president and to change all his glory web pages.  I don't expect  the USCA to obey the rules but at least they can stop crying about how they didn't know that the WUSV supports the GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA as members.  The USCA does not have control of the GSD in the United States .. never has and never will !!  The USCA is the best and if you don't believe it just ask them or probably they will tell you if you stand still.  Over the last few years the majority of the dogs competing and winning at the higher level trials in the USCA trials have been imports and some were trained before being imported and had won in other countries trials before being imported.  I have seen very few USCA dogs that were not imports or first generation progeny so if the great guardians of the GSD breed are making progress in developing a superior American bred GSD after 40 years it seems to be hard to prove with results.

 

BooBoo,
UScA wanted clarification of the rules and was never given them until this past Friday.
The reason for this is so that no one could come back to them after the fact and say that UScA did it wrong, regardless of which way it turned out.
What if UScA all along had allowed WDA scorebooks?
I'm not saying the GSDCA scorebooks, but, the WDA scorebooks that were previously issued up until abot two years ago.
What if the WUSV had said, no, these scorebooks are no good?
What if the WUSV had said that the present scorebooks, the GSDCA-WDA scorebook, was no good because it is being issued by a non-member organization, the WDA?
Many, many people would have had all their hard time and hard work nullified.
Then all the whiny people would be screaming to high-hell that UScA had screwed them over.
The WUSV has clarified things now. They have made the WDA a member club. (just wondering why, after all this, they don't list them as a member club on their web site?)
The WDA's members, their judges, the scores and titles awarded by their judges, and their scorebooks are recognized now.
No big deal, right!

As for, people buying trained and titled dog to compete with, wake up!
It happens all over the world. Even in Germany and the Czech Republic.

Here is another tidbit for everyone to ponder.
With the recent determination by the the WUSV that WDA judges and the scores and titles they award are recognized by all member clubs of the WUSV, it naturally follows that this same thing must be applied to all member clubs of the WUSV.
So, as I see it, the judges from the GSDCA and the scores and titles awarded by them are now recognized also.
The GSDCA has been a member of the WUSV for a long time. As BooBoo says above, if you don't believe it you are a liar.
So, I guess the WUSV with their recent clarification has also endorsed the breed standard of the GSDCA.
The standard applied to the GSDCA version of the German Shepherd.
Clearly the WUSV can not have overlooked this.
The GSDCA has been a long-time member of the WUSV. No one disagrees.
Something as important as the GSDCA breed standard can't have been overlooked, could it?
It's right on the front page of their web site. It's over on the right side of the page under "Education Resources."

I think the word for this is lie!!  The letter from the SV and WUSV by Henke spelled out who knew what when!  The USCA knew the GSDCA-WDA was a WUSV member and it has been known since 2008,  resolved so by the WUSV in a 2010 resolution, and amended in the WUSV constitution in 2012.  Nope the USCA knew and they broke the rules anyway.  It was all sour grapes because the GSWDA rejected the USCA when they wanted to merge ( actually hostile take over and thankfully they didn't do it ).  The GSWDA instead allied with the GSDCA and made the correct choice.   The USCA folks involved in talking with GSWDA were so nieve as to think merger talks were only with them when anyone who has been through a merger knows that the merger candidate always romances all suitors simultaneously because that is the most powerful position to negotiate from.

 

 

 

 

Come on, don't get carry away....
This letter is about scorebooks and accaptance in the events, "especially with regard to the situation in the US".
There is nothing about the standard!

"What if UScA all along had allowed WDA scorebooks?"
Absolutely nothing! We could avoid the drama! That is a lousy excuse.
WUSV accepts WDA scorebooks (doesn't matter old or new) for many years. Otherwise how did they participate in a world championship?
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Tell me Booboo, what's GSDCA and WDA are going to be doing if USCA pulls the plug from the WUSV? RSV2000 is growing fast in Germany; the SV is loosing ground.

Yes, for now USCA will be complying; but there are holes in WUSV's request, big ones. The SV can not overturn US law. USCA is an established organization, by no means perfect, but very much able to stand on their own feet. At this point, telling the WUSV to "Kannst mich mal am Arsch lecken" or in nicer form "Rutsch mir den Buckel runter" (equip to Nia's "kiss my ass") sounds very attractive.

Well I expect the GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA will survive because that's what we have been doing without the USCA.  The Romans had a term Furor Teutonicus ( the fury or madness of the Teutons).  The USCA has a poor memory for history (can't remember the rules and what they voted for).  The Romans invaded Germany about 9 CE and sent three roman legions into northern Germany.  Normally the Romans had a great numerical and technological advantage and killed the Germans (Tuetons) without mercy.  In the battle of Tuetoborg Forest the German tribesmen were able to divide the 30,000 Romans into small groups in a forested area during heavy rains.  The Germans killed them all over the course of 3-4 days.  Normally the German tribesmen were busy killing each other but for a short period they united to kill their common enemy the Romans.  Despite their numbers and technology the Romans never conquered and held Germany north of the Rhine.  So maybe the USCA can fight and win against the WUSV and SV .. have at it.  The Germans can be beaten but not without enduring their fury.

I see great financial gain for the UScA.
WUSV requires all "events" open to WDA members.......well.....
UScA boasts they have an excellent training program

UScA - Set up handler training, trial and conformation judges seminars and certifications.........and invite WDA members.
WDA members will be trained to UScA standards, what could be better?
More handlers, trial and conformation judges that are WDA........less WDA members bother to enter UScA trials..........

Its a win-win.......and UScA clubs have extra $$$$$ from the WDA participants.

UScA members can also enter WDA trials, please open a can of whipass, enter and try to win   ...........
I would love to see the competition.....

Why is it that WDA members feel so entitled to WELFARE from USCA? Do you want us to supply you with dog food stamps and Pampers, too? That is exactly what Sitasmom is asking for: USCA to provide you wiyh Section 8 housing, GED training, child care and cigarettes. Really? You don't get it? You want hand-outs, instead of developing your own. Shameless!

The WUSV/ SV can truly KMBA. And so can the schutzhund-welfare wanna-be moochers. USCA should simply leave WUSV. Maybe then, WDA will fend for itself.

Just realized that it IS the first of the month!! LMAO!!!